From: Tim Campbell on

cathyb wrote:
>
> "Anyway, please don't presume to lecture others about the scientific
> approach until you can demonstrate a basic understanding of it."

Have you ever had the courage to just go out there and try a Zapper for
yourself?

From: Tim Campbell on

Mark Probert wrote:

> Correct!
>
> Hulda and her supporters should stop doing that and use her years of
> research to actually prove their claims. She and her Henchmen were given
> the chance, and they couldn't.
>
> If at first you do not succeed, lie, lie, again...that is Hulda's motto.
>

or you Mark...have you ever had the courage to try the Zapper?

ps, and how about that evidence to support the repeatability of the
placebo effect I am so patiently waiting on???

From: Mark Probert on
Tim Campbell wrote:
> cathyb wrote:
>
>>PS I'd be interested to know why you're not demanding that Clark
>>produce any scientific data to back up her frauds, something she has
>>notably failed to do.
>>
>
>
> Cathy,
> Why don't you offer to finance such testing for Hulda? Oh...and have it
> done in a truly independent laboratory...

That is not necessary. All Hulda has to do is to move back to the USA
and apply for a research grant through NCCAM. Of course, there is that
pesky requirement that she must publish her results and make all data
available.

That would be bad for business.
From: Mark Probert on
Tim Campbell wrote:
> Mark Probert wrote:
>
>
>>Correct!
>>
>>Hulda and her supporters should stop doing that and use her years of
>>research to actually prove their claims. She and her Henchmen were given
>>the chance, and they couldn't.
>>
>>If at first you do not succeed, lie, lie, again...that is Hulda's motto.
>>
>
>
> or you Mark...have you ever had the courage to try the Zapper?

I have had many electrical shocks, so the zapper is nothing to be afraid
of.

> ps, and how about that evidence to support the repeatability of the
> placebo effect I am so patiently waiting on???

Could you post where I claimed precisely that?



From: Tim Campbell on

Mark Probert wrote:
>
> Could you post where I claimed precisely that?
>

Mark, we had the following exchange last May:

"Mark Probert wrote:
> Interesting. To my mind, it would be more logical that the placebo
effect is
> repeatable, since one successful placebo would actually reinforce the
the
> treatment the next time. If it did not work, then the mind would
reject
> further treatment.


Mark, Somehow I didn't have you pegged as a "mind science" person. You
really believe the power of mind is sufficient to keep placebo effects
manifesting, repeatedly, consistently...indefinitely?"