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From: Mike on 8 Sep 2005 17:51
Did anyone see tonight's (8 Sept) Channel 4 programme "Dyslexia Myth"?
If so what did you think about it?
For those who did not see it, basically it said our common understanding
of dyslexia is a myth and that the problem is that dyslexics are poor
readers. For more info see
http://www.channel4.com/news/microsites/D/dyslexia_myth/dyslexia.html

Mike
From: g.m.poncia on 9 Sep 2005 01:13
i saw it, an exilent program, well done to the scientists for doing it
-not a moment too soon. hopefullty now there recomendations will be put
into practice. we aren't special we are just ordianry people who find /
found reading and spelling difficult. in general i think dyslexics
tendincy to consider ourselves as very differant from non-dyslexics
has been bad for us and very very pad for poor-readers who have not
been diagnosed as dyslexic

Gemma

Mike wrote:
> Did anyone see tonight's (8 Sept) Channel 4 programme "Dyslexia Myth"?
> If so what did you think about it?
> For those who did not see it, basically it said our common understanding
> of dyslexia is a myth and that the problem is that dyslexics are poor
> readers. For more info see
> http://www.channel4.com/news/microsites/D/dyslexia_myth/dyslexia.html
>
> Mike

From: Roger Merriman on 9 Sep 2005 08:54
<g.m.poncia(a)btinternet.com> wrote:

yes the us and them argument, along with the thinking differntly rather
than it attaully being a problem with a secton/s of the brain never
seemed to have strong case for it. though i fully understand its
attractions.

it would be intresting to know if lower IQ people with reading/spelling
problems have other problems such as poor working memory

all though i and friends have noticed that there is a differnt way in
which i and other dylsexics spell to other poor spellers though i guess
for a lot of people even though there native ablity might not be low,
they have no intrest so its in a way "sloppy spellings?" compared to the
dyslexics spelling the word by shape and sound.

so while i do and have allways belived that dyslexica is just a acute
manfastion of the brain, i'm not sure the whole story is open bare yet.

particly as it was so single focused on reading, which although the
orginal meaning and the central pilla of the idea of dyslexica there are
other symtoms which often accompiny such terribly memory, squensing etc.

Roger

> i saw it, an exilent program, well done to the scientists for doing it
> -not a moment too soon. hopefullty now there recomendations will be put
> into practice. we aren't special we are just ordianry people who find /
> found reading and spelling difficult. in general i think dyslexics
> tendincy to consider ourselves as very differant from non-dyslexics
> has been bad for us and very very pad for poor-readers who have not
> been diagnosed as dyslexic
>
> Gemma
>
> Mike wrote:
> > Did anyone see tonight's (8 Sept) Channel 4 programme "Dyslexia Myth"?
> > If so what did you think about it?
> > For those who did not see it, basically it said our common understanding
> > of dyslexia is a myth and that the problem is that dyslexics are poor
> > readers. For more info see
> > http://www.channel4.com/news/microsites/D/dyslexia_myth/dyslexia.html
> >
> > Mike
From: g.m.poncia on 9 Sep 2005 11:39
>it would be intresting to know if lower IQ people with reading/spelling
>problems have other problems such as poor working memory

i guess so as they reccon all reading difficulties are due to poor
phonological processing and phonological proccessing is also needed for
working memory -anyway it would be bizar if as a population's i.q.
increased there working memory decresed so why would poor readers with
low i.q. be differant?

>all though i and friends have noticed that there is a differnt way in
>which i and other dylsexics spell to other poor spellers though i guess
>for a lot of people even though there native ablity might not be low,
>they have no intrest so its in a way "sloppy spellings?" compared to the
>dyslexics spelling the word by shape and sound.

i have noticed this too, but i guess people who learn spellings best by
sight are gonna make differant mistake to people who learn best by
sound and both overlap with people who use multysencory...
i guess engish as a second laguage spell by their natve language more
or more like begging english and sloppy spellers are a whole differant
ball game :)
-but then they reconed that dyslexic spellers spell the same as their
non-dyslexic pears with the same spelling age -but i've heard very
differant to this and personally am not so sure it's true

>particly as it was so single focused on reading, which although the
>orginal meaning and the central pilla of the idea of dyslexica there are
>other symtoms which often accompiny such terribly memory, squensing etc.

unless the bad memory, squencing problems are also due to poor
phonological processing abilities -as Dr Shaywits recons... but i too
am not sure if poor phonological processing abilities is equvalent to
slightly colour blind -i have never been colour-blind so i don't know
but i think maybe poor phonological processing abilities has more
effect on a person than slightly colour blind when you count
difficulties in reading, spelling, memory, sequncing

still i think it's not as huge a seperation from the norm as we were
once lead to believe, which i'm pleased about, and, more to the point i
personally feal it discribes me better
And they're able to help ALL poor readers not just those of us
diagnosed as dyslexics which truly is wanderful -i think alot of people
must have washed people like me and wandered why they were left do deal
with it while i got extra reading lessons. i hope people who fail
because of a poor start rather than diagnosed dyslexia are now gonna be
as well off as us :o)

Gemma

From: The autist formerly known as on 9 Sep 2005 15:29
Speak for yourself mate, I happen to have a more complex raft of
neurodiversities including dyspraxia, dysgraphia, and dyscalculia, the
latter which never seems to get any mention anywhere at all.

And I do not think anyone who has ever met me could call me ordinary by any
definition of the word.



--
?T

L'autisme c'est moi

"Space folds, and folded space bends, and bent folded space contracts and
expands unevenly in every way unconcievable except to someone who does not
believe in the laws of mathematics"




<g.m.poncia(a)btinternet.com> wrote in message
news:1126242793.315033.96800(a)g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> i saw it, an exilent program, well done to the scientists for doing it
> -not a moment too soon. hopefullty now there recomendations will be put
> into practice. we aren't special we are just ordianry people who find /
> found reading and spelling difficult. in general i think dyslexics
> tendincy to consider ourselves as very differant from non-dyslexics
> has been bad for us and very very pad for poor-readers who have not
> been diagnosed as dyslexic
>
> Gemma
>
> Mike wrote:


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