From: Mark Probert on
On Sep 12, 12:30 pm, "D. C. Sessions" <d...(a)lumbercartel.com> wrote:
> Citizen Jimserac wrote:
> > On Sep 12, 10:53 am, "D. C. Sessions" <d...(a)lumbercartel.com> wrote:
> >> CitizenJimseracwrote:
> >> > Another example, a cancer researcher whose funding was denied due to
> >> > "experts" wooifying his work and who, having exhausted almost all
> >> > avenues for funding was lucky enough to get a grant from Monsanto
> >> > which allowed him to complete his work, successfully and
> >> > open up a new field in cutting off the blood supply to kill cancer.
>
> >> I gather that you're trying to rewrite the history of the late
> >> Judah Folkman?
>
> > Yeah Folkman, he died not long ago.  Don't tell
> > me you think HE'S the bad guy??
>
> Not at all -- you're the one making up the story, so by all
> means tell it.  I was just trying to connect your mythical
> figures with actual people.
>
> > Oh I can't wait to here this, go ahead....
>
> Not my story to tell.

Do not tell Jimmy that an oncologist he bashes is following up in
Folkman's foot steps.

From: D. C. Sessions on
Mark Probert wrote:
> On Sep 12, 12:30�pm, "D. C. Sessions" <d...(a)lumbercartel.com> wrote:
>> Citizen Jimserac wrote:
>> > On Sep 12, 10:53�am, "D. C. Sessions" <d...(a)lumbercartel.com> wrote:
>> >> CitizenJimseracwrote:

>> >> > Another example, a cancer researcher whose funding was denied due to
>> >> > "experts" wooifying his work and who, having exhausted almost all
>> >> > avenues for funding was lucky enough to get a grant from Monsanto
>> >> > which allowed him to complete his work, successfully and
>> >> > open up a new field in cutting off the blood supply to kill cancer.
>>
>> >> I gather that you're trying to rewrite the history of the late
>> >> Judah Folkman?
>>
>> > Yeah Folkman, he died not long ago. �Don't tell
>> > me you think HE'S the bad guy??
>>
>> Not at all -- you're the one making up the story, so by all
>> means tell it. �I was just trying to connect your mythical
>> figures with actual people.
>>
>> > Oh I can't wait to here this, go ahead....
>>
>> Not my story to tell.
>
> Do not tell Jimmy that an oncologist he bashes is following up in
> Folkman's foot steps.

Don't worry, he won't hear it from me.

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| chance that someone will see the light. |
+- D. C. Sessions <dcs(a)lumbercartel.com> -+
From: Peter Bowditch on
Citizen Jimserac <Jimserac(a)gmail.com> wrote:

>And as we've pointed out MANY TIMES to the Aunties,
>the woo-ites often get it wrong. One major instance
>was the widespread attacks against a researcher who dared propose that
>ulcers were caused by something other than just stress
>and/or diet -> like an identifiable BACTERIUM.

You would have some evidence of these "widespread attacks", I suppose.
(Actually, I don't suppose it because it never happened and you, as
usual, are just talking nonsense.)

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From: Peter Bowditch on
Citizen Jimserac <Jimserac(a)gmail.com> wrote:

>On Sep 12, 10:52�am, "D. C. Sessions" <d...(a)lumbercartel.com> wrote:
>> CitizenJimseracwrote:
>> > And as we've pointed out MANY TIMES to the Aunties,
>> > the woo-ites often get it wrong. �One major instance
>> > was the widespread attacks against a researcher who dared propose that
>> > ulcers were caused by something other than just stress
>> > and/or diet -> like an identifiable BACTERIUM.
>> > You know the story, research funding was cut back and almost denied to
>> > this NOBEL PRIZE WINNER who had to eat some
>> > of the bacteria himself and then demonstrate that he
>> > now had Pyloric Ulcers in order to silence the critics.
>>
>> What attacks? �You don't have to support "widespread,"
>> just one will do.
>>
>
>No no, YOU go ahead and do your own research

Just as I thought - another clone of shitbag timmie, making claims
without foundation.

>and read about the WARM RECEPTION (NOT!!)
>that he got until he finally just ATE the damn bacteria
>and then demonstrated that he had (DRUM ROLL...SURPRISE!!)
>Pyloric Ulcers. THAT finally shut up the "stress" crowd
>for whom ANY deviation from accepted medical orthodoxy
>was quackery and charlatanism - just what they now call
>Homeopathists and for the SAME WRONG REASONS -
>complete inability to tolerate innovation and change
>of accepted medical paradigms.
>
>Citizen Jimserac
>> --
>> | The brighter the stupid burns, the more |
>> | chance that someone will see the light. |
>> +- D. C. Sessions <d...(a)lumbercartel.com> -+

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From: Peter Bowditch on
Citizen Jimserac <Jimserac(a)gmail.com> wrote:

>On Sep 12, 12:30�pm, "D. C. Sessions" <d...(a)lumbercartel.com> wrote:
>> CitizenJimseracwrote:
>> > On Sep 12, 10:53�am, "D. C. Sessions" <d...(a)lumbercartel.com> wrote:
>> >> CitizenJimseracwrote:
>> >> > Another example, a cancer researcher whose funding was denied due to
>> >> > "experts" wooifying his work and who, having exhausted almost all
>> >> > avenues for funding was lucky enough to get a grant from Monsanto
>> >> > which allowed him to complete his work, successfully and
>> >> > open up a new field in cutting off the blood supply to kill cancer.
>>
>> >> I gather that you're trying to rewrite the history of the late
>> >> Judah Folkman?
>>
>> > Yeah Folkman, he died not long ago. �Don't tell
>> > me you think HE'S the bad guy??
>>
>> Not at all -- you're the one making up the story, so by all
>> means tell it. �I was just trying to connect your mythical
>> figures with actual people.
>>
>> > Oh I can't wait to here this, go ahead....
>>
>> Not my story to tell.
>>
>
>
>I see then, you've GOT NOTHING to say,
>just a little random attempt at discrediting
>another researcher.

I saw no discrediting. I saw a question about the identity of the
person you were referring to.

Tell us the Folkman story (with reputable references, of course).

>
>No problem.
>
>Citizen Jimserac

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