From: PeterB - Original on
On Nov 28, 3:20 pm, Tristan <twer...(a)aol.com> wrote:
> PeterB - Original wrote:
> > Naturally-occurring substances to which human beings have evolved a
> > beneficial metabolic response (nutrients such as water, oxygen,
> > vitamins, etc.) are not inherently poisonous....
>
> Oxygen is extremely reactive and in high concentrations has
> harmful effects on humans and most organisms.  

So does water, that doesn't make it *inherently* toxic. Mercury is
inherently toxic because we have no beneficial metabolic response to
it.

> A similar thing could be said for
> for glucose levels.  

Or any of hundreds of biosynthetic substances manufactured inside your
body that are essential for good health. You still can't say any of
them are *inherently* poisonous in the way that mercury is.

> The "natural vs artificial" argument is worthless.

I didn't make that argument. Mercury is a naturally-occurring
substance, but we have no beneficial metabolic response to it, so it's
a poison at any dose. You can't say that about oxygen.

>   You have to judge each substance on an individual basis.

Only if you refuse to accept classification as an accepted scientific
method for evaluating a set of data.

From: PeterB - Original on
On Nov 28, 2:53 pm, "Peter B" <origin...(a)frag.com> wrote:
>
> Just double checked re mercury. While most of it is non-harmful...

Care to back that up with a citation?

> none of it is good for the body. Three are a few forms of mercury
> that are poison. I'll let you figure that out. ;)

The evidence shows that all mercury compounds are toxic, although some
are more immediately hazardous and some do not cross the blood brain
barrier. The following papers discuss the adverse health effects of
inorganic mercury. Perhaps you will some (much needed) time to
educate yourself.

1) Langford NJ, Ferner RE (1999). "Toxicity of mercury" (PDF). Journal
of Human Hypertension 13 (10): 651–6. doi:10.1038/sj.jhh.1000896.
Retrieved 2007-07-31

2) "Mercuric Cyanide." 1987. http://www.gulflink.osd.mil/m256/m256_refs/n17en111/164.htm
(accessed April 2, 2009)
From: Peter B on

"PeterB - Original" <pkm(a)mytrashmail.com> wrote in message
news:3066aea3-a237-4d4c-8b40-5d1ddb26c8ce(a)a32g2000yqm.googlegroups.com...
On Nov 28, 2:53 pm, "Peter B" <origin...(a)frag.com> wrote:
>
> Just double checked re mercury. While most of it is non-harmful...

Care to back that up with a citation?

> none of it is good for the body. Three are a few forms of mercury
> that are poison. I'll let you figure that out. ;)

The evidence shows that all mercury compounds are toxic, although some
are more immediately hazardous and some do not cross the blood brain
barrier. The following papers discuss the adverse health effects of
inorganic mercury. Perhaps you will some (much needed) time to
educate yourself.

1) Langford NJ, Ferner RE (1999). "Toxicity of mercury" (PDF). Journal
of Human Hypertension 13 (10): 651-6. doi:10.1038/sj.jhh.1000896.
Retrieved 2007-07-31

2) "Mercuric Cyanide." 1987.://
(accessed April 2, 2009)
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Cyanide is well known for its danger. discovered centuries ago. nothing
new there.

You show your ignorance by claiming all mercury is toxic. Show proof.
You said you always provide scientific proof. None of that is here.

As to my using cites, we've already gone over that, you don't want any
as have previously stated, you discount them out of hand.


From: Mark Probert on
On Nov 28, 3:20 pm, Tristan <twer...(a)aol.com> wrote:
> PeterB - Original wrote:
> > Naturally-occurring substances to which human beings have evolved a
> > beneficial metabolic response (nutrients such as water, oxygen,
> > vitamins, etc.) are not inherently poisonous....
>
> Oxygen is extremely reactive and in high concentrations has harmful
> effects on humans and most organisms.  A similar thing could be said for
> for glucose levels.  The "natural vs artificial" argument is worthless.
>   You have to judge each substance on an individual basis.

You have to understand, Petey has idiotsyncratic definitions of words
that others use every day.

From: Peter B on

"PeterB - Original" <pkm(a)mytrashmail.com> wrote in message
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On Nov 28, 3:20 pm, Tristan <twer...(a)aol.com> wrote:
> PeterB - Original wrote:
> > Naturally-occurring substances to which human beings have evolved a
> > beneficial metabolic response (nutrients such as water, oxygen,
> > vitamins, etc.) are not inherently poisonous....
>
> Oxygen is extremely reactive and in high concentrations has
> harmful effects on humans and most organisms.

So does water, that doesn't make it *inherently* toxic. Mercury is
inherently toxic because we have no beneficial metabolic response to
it.
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It is inherently toxic, idiot. Read up on it. (oxygen & water)

I'm going to watch you dance, again.