From: PeterB - Original on
On Dec 2, 5:41 pm, Peter Bowditch <myfirstn...(a)ratbags.com> wrote:
> PeterB - Original <p...(a)mytrashmail.com> wrote:
>
> >The point being made is that
> >"dose makes the poison" falsely equates the inherently toxic nature of
> >drugs with the inherently non-toxic nature of nutrients.
>
> Add "dose makes the poison" to the ever-growing list of terms you
> either wish to redefine or do not understand.

Since you apparently disagree that drugs are toxic at any dose, do
explain how that is possible.
From: PeterB - Original on
On Dec 2, 10:21 pm, Bob Officer <boboffic...(a)127.0.0.7> wrote:
> On Thu, 03 Dec 2009 09:41:54 +1100, in misc.health.alternative, Peter
>
> Bowditch <myfirstn...(a)ratbags.com> wrote:
> >PeterB - Original <p...(a)mytrashmail.com> wrote:
>
> >>The point being made is that
> >>"dose makes the poison" falsely equates the inherently toxic nature of
> >>drugs with the inherently non-toxic nature of nutrients.
>
> >Add "dose makes the poison" to the ever-growing list of terms you
> >either wish to redefine or do not understand.
>
> add to the list of words he doesn't know how to use or invents his
> own meaning: "Inherently"

Meaning you cannot intelligently respond to the point made that drugs,
and substances such as mercury, are inherently toxic.
From: PeterB - Original on
On Dec 2, 9:49 pm, RGrannus <RGran...(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Dec 1, 10:33 pm, PeterB - Original <p...(a)mytrashmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Dec 1, 9:58 pm, Bob Officer <boboffic...(a)127.0.0.7> wrote:
>
> > That is not the point being made, Booby.  The point being made is that
> > "dosemakes the poison" falsely equates the inherently toxic nature of
> > drugs with the inherently non-toxic nature of nutrients.  As evidence,
> > there are rarely reports of vitamin induced death but frequent reports
> > of drug induced death.  Sorry that your limited intellect can't grasp
> > something almost as simple as you are.
>
> That's too great a generality.  

The statement that drugs are toxic at any dose is not a generality.

Many "drugs" are not inherently toxic...

Can you name them?

> (or very weakly so).  

Toxicity is toxicity.

> Some nutrients are quite toxic in high doses or
> for certain people (eg, gluten).

Gluten intolerance is a genetic predisposition and points to allergic
response, so it is not inherently poisonous. Toxicity that results
from exceeding safe thresholds of vitamin and mineral intake is
extremely rare and shows that nutrients enjoy broad range of
beneficial metabolic uptake, whereas drugs do not.
From: AusShane on
On Dec 3, 3:28 pm, PeterB - Original <p...(a)mytrashmail.com> wrote:
> On Dec 2, 9:49 pm, RGrannus <RGran...(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Dec 1, 10:33 pm, PeterB - Original <p...(a)mytrashmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Dec 1, 9:58 pm, Bob Officer <boboffic...(a)127.0.0.7> wrote:
>
> > > That is not the point being made, Booby.  The point being made is that
> > > "dosemakes the poison" falsely equates the inherently toxic nature of
> > > drugs with the inherently non-toxic nature of nutrients.  As evidence,
> > > there are rarely reports of vitamin induced death but frequent reports
> > > of drug induced death.  Sorry that your limited intellect can't grasp
> > > something almost as simple as you are.
>
> > That's too great a generality.  
>
> The statement that drugs are toxic at any dose is not a generality.
>
> Many "drugs" are not inherently toxic...
>
> Can you name them?
>
> > (or very weakly so).  
>
> Toxicity is toxicity.
>
> > Some nutrients are quite toxic in high doses or
> > for certain people (eg, gluten).
>
> Gluten intolerance is a genetic predisposition and points to allergic
> response, so it is not inherently poisonous.  Toxicity that results
> from exceeding safe thresholds of vitamin and mineral intake is
> extremely rare and shows that nutrients enjoy  broad range of
> beneficial metabolic uptake, whereas drugs do not.

Medicines and Food are not the same thing village idiot. Any sane
person can make the distinction why cant you???. If we did not develop
the intellect to use biologically active molecules regardless of the
source we would still be feeding colds and starving fevers.
From: Jan Drew on
On Dec 3, 12:43�am, AusShane <quar...(a)live.com>

Name calling deleted.