Diazepam and Lorazepam?
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From: paulfoel on 12 Nov 2005 07:05 Whats the difference between these two? What amount of L is equivalent to amount of D? I've got both from my doc and have had both in the past but used rarely. Didn't seem to make a great of difference. Whats an effective does of either? Does it work? Does it make you feel better (or just tired) ? All I need is something to get me over the odd bad day or two.(I'm aware of the issues with these drugs etc).
From: Lachlan - Grand Exalted Most High King and Emperor of All the Universe on 12 Nov 2005 08:39 "paulfoel" <BertieBigBollox(a)gmail.com> wrote in message news:1131797148.302371.144470(a)g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > Whats the difference between these two? What amount of L is equivalent > to amount of D? > > I've got both from my doc and have had both in the past but used > rarely. Didn't seem to make a great of difference. > > Whats an effective does of either? Does it work? Does it make you feel > better (or just tired) ? > > All I need is something to get me over the odd bad day or two.(I'm > aware of the issues with these drugs etc). > Both are benzodiazepine tranquilisers as you probably know. Lorazepam is shorter acting than diazepam (i.e. stays in your body for less time) and the dose equivalents are approximately 1mg Lorazepam = 10mg of Diazepam. Conventional wisdom dictates that as Lorazepam is shorter acting, it is more addictive, but with any benzos you shouldn't take them for any longer than a couple of weeks if possible. I've taken both in the past and would say I got more of an effect from Diazepam. The British National Formulary says..... " Benzodiazepines are indicated for the short-term relief of severe anxiety but long-term use should be avoided. Diazepam, alprazolam, chlordiazepoxide, clobazam, and clorazepate have a sustained action. Shorter-acting compounds such as lorazepam and oxazepam may be preferred in patients with hepatic impairment but they carry a greater risk of withdrawal symptoms. In panic disorders (with or without agoraphobia) resistant to antidepressant therapy, a benzodiazepine (lorazepam 3-5 mg daily or clonazepam 1-2 mg daily [both unlicensed]) may be used; alternatively, a benzodiazepine may be used as short-term adjunctive therapy at the start of antidepressant treatment to prevent the initial worsening of symptoms. hope this helps. cheers L
From: G on 12 Nov 2005 13:52 ok ive taken pretty much benzo available. L and D are two different generations. D stays in your system for quite a while over 24 hrs. go to benzo.org for the exacts altho dont let it deter u. ativan is second generation, the bezos that act fast and come on strong but supposedly do not goes so much sleepiness. there are three main second gen benzos xanax, ativan, klonipin. ativan is used a lot cause xanax is really fast acting and supposedly make one more prone to addiction. xanax got a bad rap, so did valium. if u are taking something just once in a while it makes absolutely no sense to take valium - d. it stays in your system for a long time, doesnt come on strong, and the effect on anxiety is less- plus in my experience and others older gen benzos make u more depressed. read up on this on the internet. or go to alt.anxiety or whatever it is. of all the benzos i've take i liked ativan the most (even tho i take klon for a movement disorder) because it is not so hardhitting as xanax, and u can pop it in ur mouth, w/out water, no bad taste, and it starts working fast. of all the benzos i like lorezepam best. there really is a huge difference btwn the quickies ativan xanax and the ones with the large half-lifes. when i took valium i really had to monitor on paper how much i took b/c once u get it in ur system it isnt leaving for a while. there are so many sites that explain this- benzos have been explored a whole lot since the results of dosage are fairly standard.
From: neutron on 12 Nov 2005 20:52 "G" <ghelias(a)cc.owu.edu> wrote in message news:1131821566.070677.60710(a)g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > ok ive taken pretty much benzo available. L and D are two different > generations. D stays in your system for quite a while over 24 hrs. go > to benzo.org for the exacts altho dont let it deter u. ativan is second > generation, the bezos that act fast and come on strong but supposedly > do not goes so much sleepiness. there are three main second gen benzos > xanax, ativan, klonipin. ativan is used a lot cause xanax is really > fast acting and supposedly make one more prone to addiction. xanax got > a bad rap, so did valium. if u are taking something just once in a > while it makes absolutely no sense to take valium - d. it stays in your > system for a long time, doesnt come on strong, and the effect on > anxiety is less- plus in my experience and others older gen benzos make > u more depressed. read up on this on the internet. or go to alt.anxiety > or whatever it is. of all the benzos i've take i liked ativan the most > (even tho i take klon for a movement disorder) because it is not so > hardhitting as xanax, and u can pop it in ur mouth, w/out water, no bad > taste, and it starts working fast. of all the benzos i like lorezepam > best. there really is a huge difference btwn the quickies ativan xanax > and the ones with the large half-lifes. when i took valium i really had > to monitor on paper how much i took b/c once u get it in ur system it > isnt leaving for a while. > there are so many sites that explain this- benzos have been explored a > whole lot since the results of dosage are fairly standard. > I've only taken valium once, when I got arrested once and I was in a cell, they seem to give everybody a couple of those to help you sleep or something. Anyway I found that the next day I was talking more than normal and felt a bit "high".
From: kez on 13 Nov 2005 19:15
I have had valium, lorazapam, clonozapam, nitrazipam and termazipam i have found that getting a regular supply of these out of a GP is very difficult indeed. However my pdoc has given me a repeat perscription of Rivitril (clonozopam). I have read up on it a little and it is also used as an anti-epileptic, which is interesting. A mate of mine is also on Rivitril and has 4 a day (every 4 hours). It is a good benzo which lasts about 4 hours and takes about half an hour to work. It is a very good short term stressbuster that is my experience -- kez "G" <ghelias(a)cc.owu.edu> wrote in message news:1131821566.070677.60710(a)g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > ok ive taken pretty much benzo available. L and D are two different > generations. D stays in your system for quite a while over 24 hrs. go > to benzo.org for the exacts altho dont let it deter u. ativan is second > generation, the bezos that act fast and come on strong but supposedly > do not goes so much sleepiness. there are three main second gen benzos > xanax, ativan, klonipin. ativan is used a lot cause xanax is really > fast acting and supposedly make one more prone to addiction. xanax got > a bad rap, so did valium. if u are taking something just once in a > while it makes absolutely no sense to take valium - d. it stays in your > system for a long time, doesnt come on strong, and the effect on > anxiety is less- plus in my experience and others older gen benzos make > u more depressed. read up on this on the internet. or go to alt.anxiety > or whatever it is. of all the benzos i've take i liked ativan the most > (even tho i take klon for a movement disorder) because it is not so > hardhitting as xanax, and u can pop it in ur mouth, w/out water, no bad > taste, and it starts working fast. of all the benzos i like lorezepam > best. there really is a huge difference btwn the quickies ativan xanax > and the ones with the large half-lifes. when i took valium i really had > to monitor on paper how much i took b/c once u get it in ur system it > isnt leaving for a while. > there are so many sites that explain this- benzos have been explored a > whole lot since the results of dosage are fairly standard. > |