Diagnosis [Hypoglycemia]

From: ghostwhistler on 8 Oct 2008 05:57

Hi, I think that I suffer from hypglycemia. I've had the symptoms for
about 8 years but all my doctor's believe that there's nothing wrong
with me. I've had my blood tested many times (though not my urine, and
I pee a lot especially in the mornings when the symptoms are more
pronounced between meals), and apparently nothing. I did a glucose
test that came up negative as well, where I didn't eat food from a
certain time the previous evening, went in early to the doctor's drank
that awful syrup and came back a couple of hours later to give blood
(again). Nothing.

Yet the symptoms persist and occasionally they really take it out of
me. I already suffer a great deal of anxiety in life (though perhaps
it's all related) and this just makes it worse. I'm currently not
working and given these symptoms I can't see how I could. But the only
thing the doctors seem to say is either 'what do you expect me to do
about it', or 'well you've had it for this long so it can't be that
serious'! That's a direct quote as well.

I've done my own research, somewhat, into the condition and, from a
layman's subjective point of view, it seems to fit. But you can't
diagnose yourself and any whiff of self diagnosis in the company of
the GP and they get distinctly difficult.

Any advice would be greatly appreciated, as I write this I'm feeling a
bit 'hypo' and have just had a sandwich - not an hour or so after
breakfast (a bowl of porridge, which i was given to believe was the
sort of thing that should ease symptoms; it doesn't).

From: stacbec on 9 Oct 2008 08:49

On Oct 8, 3:57 am, ghostwhist...(a)googlemail.com wrote:
> Hi, I think that I suffer from hypglycemia. I've had the symptoms for
> about 8 years but all my doctor's believe that there's nothing wrong
> with me. I've had my blood tested many times (though not my urine, and
> I pee a lot especially in the mornings when the symptoms are more
> pronounced between meals), and apparently nothing. I did a glucose
> test that came up negative as well, where I didn't eat food from a
> certain time the previous evening, went in early to the doctor's drank
> that awful syrup and came back a couple of hours later to give blood
> (again). Nothing.
>
> Yet the symptoms persist and occasionally they really take it out of
> me. I already suffer a great deal of anxiety in life (though perhaps
> it's all related) and this just makes it worse. I'm currently not
> working and given these symptoms I can't see how I could. But the only
> thing the doctors seem to say is either 'what do you expect me to do
> about it', or 'well you've had it for this long so it can't be that
> serious'! That's a direct quote as well.
>
> I've done my own research, somewhat, into the condition and, from a
> layman's subjective point of view, it seems to fit. But you can't
> diagnose yourself and any whiff of self diagnosis in the company of
> the GP and they get distinctly difficult.
>
> Any advice would be greatly appreciated, as I write this I'm feeling a
> bit 'hypo' and have just had a sandwich - not an hour or so after
> breakfast (a bowl of porridge, which i was given to believe was the
> sort of thing that should ease symptoms; it doesn't).

the general resolution is to basically go to a very low carb diet or
even a Atkins type diet.

This is what I have found to give me the most energy and no symptoms,
I have been doing this for almost two years now.

I try to keep my carbs under 100 each day, but remember that as you
cut your carbs (don't do it all at once) you need to increase your non-
hydrogenated fats, yes I meant fats, when you are hypoglycemic you can
burn fat just fine. Fats like coconut oils, nuts.

The simple explanation.

I call it the roller coaster effect, I eat carbs, my blood sugar climb
really fast, my pancreas dumps insulin, but just a little to much,
then as there are not enough carbs to cover that extra insulin, my
blood sugar comes crashing down, creating all sorts of cravings, nasty
unpredictable mood swings, and no energy.

So what do we do, eat some more carbs, and start the roller coaster
all over again.

Brian

From: stacbec on 9 Oct 2008 10:16

On Oct 8, 3:57 am, ghostwhist...(a)googlemail.com wrote:
> Hi, I think that I suffer from hypglycemia. I've had the symptoms for
> about 8 years but all my doctor's believe that there's nothing wrong
> with me. I've had my blood tested many times (though not my urine, and
> I pee a lot especially in the mornings when the symptoms are more
> pronounced between meals), and apparently nothing. I did a glucose
> test that came up negative as well, where I didn't eat food from a
> certain time the previous evening, went in early to the doctor's drank
> that awful syrup and came back a couple of hours later to give blood
> (again). Nothing.
>
> Yet the symptoms persist and occasionally they really take it out of
> me. I already suffer a great deal of anxiety in life (though perhaps
> it's all related) and this just makes it worse. I'm currently not
> working and given these symptoms I can't see how I could. But the only
> thing the doctors seem to say is either 'what do you expect me to do
> about it', or 'well you've had it for this long so it can't be that
> serious'! That's a direct quote as well.
>
> I've done my own research, somewhat, into the condition and, from a
> layman's subjective point of view, it seems to fit. But you can't
> diagnose yourself and any whiff of self diagnosis in the company of
> the GP and they get distinctly difficult.
>
> Any advice would be greatly appreciated, as I write this I'm feeling a
> bit 'hypo' and have just had a sandwich - not an hour or so after
> breakfast (a bowl of porridge, which i was given to believe was the
> sort of thing that should ease symptoms; it doesn't).

There is a lot to know, but here are a few things that I forgot to add
in my last reply.

One is that protein is the only thing that will slow the roller
coaster swing, the better the protein the better that I feel.
Fat will slow the adsorption of carbs then spike even hours later.
(Pizza will spike me 3-4 hours after eating it)
Protein and the good fats, will give me good high quality energy for
many hours, symptom free.

Read up on hypoglycemia for diabetics, most of that is going to deal
with when a type 1 person injects to much insulin, but this relates to
us, in that when we eat more carbs than our bodies can handle, our own
pancreas injects too much insulin into us. The solution for me has
been to regulate how much insulin my body gets, via how many carbs I
eat.

now I don't have diabetes yet, (at one time I was told that I did) but
that pointed me in the right direction as what to read up on, also
know that when we eat something, that it all (vitamins aside) ends up
as a carb, protein, and a fat, inside our bodies, carbs are the bad
guy for us, it does not matter if those are the so called "complex"
carbs or even the starches they alll will make my blood sugar spike
and I will have a reaction.

I have had many similar experiences with doctors, when I have done
more studying (or paying attention) that they have at medical school
on a particular subject, the thing is I have had to become an expert
on what foods I can eat and when, what it's effects have been, and how
it made me feel.
there is no pill for the doctor to "prescribe" so it seems that they
don't know what to do.

From: stacbec on 9 Oct 2008 10:16

On Oct 8, 3:57 am, ghostwhist...(a)googlemail.com wrote:
> Hi, I think that I suffer from hypglycemia. I've had the symptoms for
> about 8 years but all my doctor's believe that there's nothing wrong
> with me. I've had my blood tested many times (though not my urine, and
> I pee a lot especially in the mornings when the symptoms are more
> pronounced between meals), and apparently nothing. I did a glucose
> test that came up negative as well, where I didn't eat food from a
> certain time the previous evening, went in early to the doctor's drank
> that awful syrup and came back a couple of hours later to give blood
> (again). Nothing.
>
> Yet the symptoms persist and occasionally they really take it out of
> me. I already suffer a great deal of anxiety in life (though perhaps
> it's all related) and this just makes it worse. I'm currently not
> working and given these symptoms I can't see how I could. But the only
> thing the doctors seem to say is either 'what do you expect me to do
> about it', or 'well you've had it for this long so it can't be that
> serious'! That's a direct quote as well.
>
> I've done my own research, somewhat, into the condition and, from a
> layman's subjective point of view, it seems to fit. But you can't
> diagnose yourself and any whiff of self diagnosis in the company of
> the GP and they get distinctly difficult.
>
> Any advice would be greatly appreciated, as I write this I'm feeling a
> bit 'hypo' and have just had a sandwich - not an hour or so after
> breakfast (a bowl of porridge, which i was given to believe was the
> sort of thing that should ease symptoms; it doesn't).

There is a lot to know, but here are a few things that I forgot to add
in my last reply.

One is that protein is the only thing that will slow the roller
coaster swing, the better the protein the better that I feel.
Fat will slow the adsorption of carbs then spike even hours later.
(Pizza will spike me 3-4 hours after eating it)
Protein and the good fats, will give me good high quality energy for
many hours, symptom free.

Read up on hypoglycemia for diabetics, most of that is going to deal
with when a type 1 person injects to much insulin, but this relates to
us, in that when we eat more carbs than our bodies can handle, our own
pancreas injects too much insulin into us. The solution for me has
been to regulate how much insulin my body gets, via how many carbs I
eat.

now I don't have diabetes yet, (at one time I was told that I did) but
that pointed me in the right direction as what to read up on, also
know that when we eat something, that it all (vitamins aside) ends up
as a carb, protein, and a fat, inside our bodies, carbs are the bad
guy for us, it does not matter if those are the so called "complex"
carbs or even the starches they alll will make my blood sugar spike
and I will have a reaction.

I have had many similar experiences with doctors, when I have done
more studying (or paying attention) that they have at medical school
on a particular subject, the thing is I have had to become an expert
on what foods I can eat and when, what it's effects have been, and how
it made me feel.
there is no pill for the doctor to "prescribe" so it seems that they
don't know what to do.

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