From: vauxall on
Hello people,

In a few weeks I'll be 40. This thought has awakened my worst long-
time enemy: depression.

I had the first serious episode at 20, then at 31 (with a nearly
suicide attempt) and then now. Looks like I'm very vulnerable to the
calendar!

After my episode at 31, I though I had reached the bottom and it was
ok till a few weeks ago: now: crisis!

To the outside world, I'm handling it well, I just look a bit more
serious but inside I'm shaking.

Of course it has to do with failing all my main targets and not being
able to recognize myself with people of my age ( I have no children,
no family, no wife/girlfriend).

But enough of me. Can anybody point me to serious literature on this
specific subject: depression at 40?

Thanks

Vauxall

From: Doug Laidlaw on
vauxall wrote:

> Hello people,
>
> In a few weeks I'll be 40. This thought has awakened my worst long-
> time enemy: depression.
>
> I had the first serious episode at 20, then at 31 (with a nearly
> suicide attempt) and then now. Looks like I'm very vulnerable to the
> calendar!
>
> After my episode at 31, I though I had reached the bottom and it was
> ok till a few weeks ago: now: crisis!
>
> To the outside world, I'm handling it well, I just look a bit more
> serious but inside I'm shaking.
>
> Of course it has to do with failing all my main targets and not being
> able to recognize myself with people of my age ( I have no children,
> no family, no wife/girlfriend).
>
> But enough of me. Can anybody point me to serious literature on this
> specific subject: depression at 40?
>
> Thanks
>
> Vauxall

I got it at 60.

At 40, you tend to realize that you won't achieve all your dreams. That is
a known problem for people liable to depression. I was O.K. until I quit
work and lost my "reason for being here". My stuff has more to do with
retirement, but the issue is the same. You need to see that there are
alternatives to what you saw as important before. I was lucky: my wife
stuck by me. You could always find a girlfriend, but really, you need to
regain your sense of worth first.

I have a Web site listing links for men with depression: see
http://members.iinet.net.au/~tomlai1/links.htm I can particularly
recommend http://www.maledepression.com/ or its sister site in Ireland
http://www.theblackdog.net/

I have saved a Google Search for "depression in retirement" which has plenty
of hits.

Doug.
--
The place for the knocker is outside the door.
- W.G.P.

From: Cathy on
I have a sizable bibliography on my mental health page. Off the top
of my head, I don't know if their are specific books or articles
listed there for people 40 or older (though their might be some for
geriatric psych but I don't think you qualify for that quite
yet! :) ) But take a look at it. You might want to check some of
the books out at the library and then if you want, buy any you that
you would like to have around the house for your private library!

Cathy
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Postcard Site: http://www.geocities.com/mensan_cathy
Hewlett High School: http://www.geocities.com/hewlettalumni
Mental Health: http://www.geocities.com/postcard_cathy

From: Doug Laidlaw on
<posted & mailed>

Cathy wrote:

> I have a sizable bibliography on my mental health page. Off the top
> of my head, I don't know if their are specific books or articles
> listed there for people 40 or older (though their might be some for
> geriatric psych but I don't think you qualify for that quite
> yet! :) ) But take a look at it. You might want to check some of
> the books out at the library and then if you want, buy any you that
> you would like to have around the house for your private library!
>
> Cathy
> My Blog: http://360.yahoo.com/mensan_cathy
> Mensa Postcard Pals SIG: http://www.geocities.com/mensan_cathy/1KSIG.html
> Camp Anawana: http://www.geocities.com/kutsherscampanawana
> Postcard Site: http://www.geocities.com/mensan_cathy
> Hewlett High School: http://www.geocities.com/hewlettalumni
> Mental Health: http://www.geocities.com/postcard_cathy

The one I saw for geriatric psychiatry at your page was more for
practitioners than for sufferers. I am now 60, and would like to see
something for older people, but I don't know enough. I mentioned before a
guy who told his story at kuro5hin. He now has a "wikibook" at
http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Demystifying_Depression/ . Many (including
myself) have told him that his statements are not substantiated and not
representative, but he is quite determined to publish it as it stands. I
have included my own background in the Discussion page just to demonstrate
that he and I are so different, and so he _can't_ generalize. Because of
the range of cases of depression, I would not even attempt anything
similar.

From my own point of view, I have read so much about depression that further
reading is now counter-productive. I am more interested in living my
answer.

Doug L.
--
They change their climate, not their soul, who run beyond the sea.
- Horace, Roman poet, 1st c. B.C.