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From: Peter B on 13 Aug 2010 01:09
"Linda" <indomitable4(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
> On Aug 12, 7:37 am, Linda <indomitab...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Aug 7, 8:26 pm, Jan Drew <jdrew63...(a)aol.com> wrote:
>> > On Aug 6, 10:47 pm, Linda <indomitab...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>> > > On Aug 6, 3:30 pm, Jan Drew <jdrew63...(a)aol.com> wrote:
>> > > > On Aug 6, 9:30 am, "Mark Probert" <mark.prob...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>> > > .
>> > > > You cannot get to misc.health alternative, either.
>> > > Not true.
>> > > Anyone can get misc.health.alternative, Jan.
>> > > All you have to do to get misc.health.alternative is to pay a monthly
>> > > fee to one of the many unscrupulous NNTP's a/k/a news servers
>> > > which carry all of usenet's news groups.
>> > > Alternatively, you can access misc.health.alternative by signing up
>> > > for one of the many "free" newsservers (most if not all of which are
>> > > even more unscrupulous than the unscrupulous NNTP's one must pay to
>> > > use to access Usenet's Newsgroups.)
>> > > My problem with accessing MHA or any other usenet newsgroup via the
>> > > unscrupulous NNTPs and/or free newsservers I mentioned above is that
>> > > the NTTP's and Free Newsservers all make it easy as pie for the
>> > > criminal element to impersonate, frogger, forge and steal OP's
>> > > online identities.
>> > > However, you and any other google groups user who doesn't mind
>> > > having
>> > > members of the criminal element impersonate, frogger, forge, and
>> > > steal your online identity, in part or whole, can get MHA via the
>> > > same NNTPs and/or free newsservers which the criminal element uses to
>> > > access MHA and other usenet newsgroups.
>> > > Regards,
>> > > LMG
>> > Ok, thanks.
>> Your welcome.
>> >But I did not do anything with those kind of people
>> I never said you did, Jan.
>> IMHO, you've reacted to your criminal victimization by "those kind of
>> people", reprobates, these past 11 years far better than most of their
>> other crime victims have.
>> My own certain knowledge that the FBI, other government agencies and
>> NGO's all recruited the worse of the world's worse criminals to aid
>> and abet their individual and/or joint efforts to "Put Ordinary
>> Folks, nee Suckers, In Jail" these past two decades made it
>> impossible for me to react in any other way except extremely poorly to
>> finding myself the target of the worse of the world's worse criminals
>> massive effort to contribute to my incarceration, debilitation, and
>> murder by proxy these past ten years.
>> My certain knowledge that ALL these "gangs" which America's Moms and
>> Grandmoms have been encountering ever since America's Moms and
>> Grandmoms began going online to educate themselves about health
>> related matters two decades ago are "gangs" comprised of the worse of
>> the world's worse criminals arises from the fact that so many of them
>> have already been publicly exposed as being among the worse of the
>> world's worse criminals, as well as, from my certain knowledge that
>> no one other than the worse of the world's worse criminals would form
>> or join cybergangs whose ultimate goal is to protect the arses of
>> certain parties, By, contributing to the incarceration,
>> debilitation, and murder by proxy of America's Moms and Grandmoms who
>> go online to educate themselves about health related matters.
>> I'm faily certain that you don't know jacksh*t about the cast of
>> extraordinarly unseemly characters whom Pablo et al recruited to
>> protect "certain parties", By, contributing to my incarceration,
>> debilitation, and murder by proxy whilst Pablo et al was restricting
>> his criminal activities vis a vis myself to ASD-Med.
>> However, once Pablo began recruiting reprobates to aid and abet his
>> criminal activities vis a vis yours truly from forums other than
>> ASDM, the spillover from Pablo's expanding his recruitment of
>> reprobates outside of ASDM occurred in some of the same venues which
>> were also receiving the spillover from Probert and his Rag Tag Posse's
>> criminal activities vis a vis you and/or Ilena.
>> This occurred because the very first reprobate whom Pablo recruited
>> outside of ASDM to aid and abet Pablo in the criminal activities which
>> Pablo was
>> perpetrating against yours truly was Mark D. Morin, who was a veteran
>> member of Probert's "3 P Boys & MM" in ASAD, as well as, a
>> longstanding member of the SPP Criminal Stalking Ring who'd been
>> misusing the sci.psychology.psychotherapy newsgroup as the base of
>> operation for their cybercrimes for over a decade by that time.
>> By recruiting Mark D. Morin, a longstanding member of the SPP
>> Criminal Stalking Ring, Pablo simultaneously recruited Kimberly K.
>> Barnard, "Iceman", Daniel L. Rogers and all the other members of the
>> SPP Criminal Stalking Ring misusing the Sci.psychology.psychotherapy
>> newsgroup as the base of operations for their criminal activities, as
>> well as, Peter J. Ross, Vince Lamb, Jim Kelso, Bob Officer and all
>> the cybercriminals misusing AUK as the base of operations for their
>> cybercrimes because SPP and AUK were so joined at the hip that SPP had
>> become more commonly known as AUK-lite.
>> Because of all the spillover in ASAD, you probably already know that
>> Mark D. Morin, the very first reprobate whom Pablo recruited outside
>> of ASDM went to prison for molesting an adolescent patient of Morin's
>> a short time after Pablo recruited Morin, so Pablo could also recruit
>> Barnard, "Iceman", Rogers and the other members of the SPP Criminal
>> Stalking Ring to aid and abet him, so Pablo could also recruit Peter
>> J. Ross, Vince Lamb, Jim Kelso, Robert Officer and other members of
>> the AUK Criminal Stalking Ring, because of SPP/AUK being joined at
>> the hip.
>> But, have you heard what's been being widely reported about "Iceman"?
>> A mild-mannered computer geek ...admitted Monday to stealing nearly 2
>> million credit card numbers, which he and others used to rack up more
>> than $86 million in fraudulent charges.
>> Max Ray Vision, 36, of San Francisco pleaded guilty in U.S. District
>> Court, Downtown, to two counts of wire fraud. He faces up to 60 years
>> in prison when sentenced Oct. 20 by Senior U.S. District Judge Maurice
>> "Max is kind of a hacker's hacker," said federal public defender
>> Michael Novara, explaining that his client -- known by the Internet
>> aliases "Iceman," "Aphex," "Darkest" and "Digits" -- hacked into
>> computer systems not only of financial institutions and credit-card
>> processing centers but also those of other hackers, to steal
>> information they stole.
>> "He would do that for various reasons, but basically because he
>> could," Novara said.
> Interesting how Michael Novara, the Federal Public Defender of the
> Cybercriminal who is best known as "Iceman", echoed my own long
> standing assertion that Cybercriminals perpetrate the Cyber-crimes
> they perpetrate because they want to, and, because they can, and,
> for no other reason.
My, aren't you the bright one. <snort>