From: Kevysmom on

> > It was taken from different sites, I would assume, you knew that.
> > from now on I will post the link, For EVERYTHING I use... does that
> > make you happy?
>
> Yes


boo!


http://boo.codehaus.org/






From: Peter B on

"Dona" <donna.arnold(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
news:d1724b23-997b-4da8-aff9-4e313c3a6442(a)k41g2000yqm.googlegroups.com...
On Feb 12, 7:27 am, Dona <donna.arn...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> On Feb 8, 8:51 pm, "Peter B" <origin...(a)frag.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > "Kevysmom" <kevysmo...(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> >news:1865d665-6110-44bf-964a-393a4fc2792b(a)c4g2000yqa.googlegroups.com...
>
> > >> > >http://childhealthsafety.wordpress.com:80/2010/02/08/britvaxautism/
>
> > >> > You know what is so sad is how anyone can not see what the hell
> > >> > is
> > >> > going on.
>
> > >> As you so well demonstrate.
>
> > > Are you trying to make a funny, You lose.
>
> > >> > We have an epidemic of disabled children in the USA, one out of
> > >> > six
> > >> > children is developmentally disabled. Some mild and some very
> > >> > severe/
> > >> > profoundly disabled.
>
> > >> > One of the ignorant "non-thinkers" spouted, Autism is genetic!
> > >> > What
> > >> > a
> > >> > fool, he has no idea about how genetics work.
>
> > >> That would be SHE has no idea, as proven by her next paragraph.
>
> > > You obviously are the one that doesnt have a clue.
>
> > >> > A person has genes, some are weaker than others, all you need
> > >> > is a
> > >> > TRIGGER (Toxin) to wreck havoc on that weak gene and you land
> > >> > up
> > >> > with
> > >> > syptoms of that disease. This goes for cancer and EVERY single
> > >> > disease
> > >> > known to mankind. Thats why some develop throat cancer from
> > >> > smoking
> > >> > while some dont, some develop lung cancer and some dont, some
> > >> > develop
> > >> > stomach cancer, it all depends on where that weak gene is the
> > >> > toxin
> > >> > destroys.
>
> > >> No, Donna, that is not why. There are two types of genetic
> > >> traits,
> > >> dominant and recessive. Please continue your education at:
>
> > > Yes, and what happens is the weak gene gets overwhelmed by toxins
> > > and
> > > the dominant gene cant keep up, the weaker gene gets destroyed,
> > > thus
> > > you land up with diseases! EVERY disease, from Asthma to ALS is
> > > genetic. It just needs a toxin to trigger it.
>
> > Oh really? Then what toxic causes blue or brown eyes? Green eyes?
> > Black
> > eyes?
>
> > Like Mark said, get an education, please,
>
> > Many couples forgo having children knowing that trying for them will
> > have a very high likelihood of early death, deformation, diseased,
> > and
> > so on. Dumb ones go ahead is spite of a Dr's recommendation and put
> > their children through needless suffering.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
> > Oh really? Then what toxic causes blue or brown eyes? Green eyes?
> > Black
> > eyes?
>
> Have you ever heard of albinism? The P-Gene(Regulates pigmentation) is
> mutated in albinism, Both parents have normal genes.
>
> Genotoxicity describes a deleterious action on a cell's genetic
> material affecting its integrity. Genotoxic substances are known to be
> potentially mutagenic or carcinogenic, specifically those capable of
> causing genetic mutation and of contributing to the development of
> tumors. This includes both certain chemical compounds and certain
> types of radiation.
>
> Typical genotoxins like aromatic amines are believed to cause
> mutations because they are nucleophilic and form strong covalent bonds
> with DNA resulting with the formation of Aromatic Amine-DNA Adducts,
> preventing accurate replication.
>
> Genotoxins affecting sperm and eggs can pass genetic changes down to
> descendants who have never been exposed to the genotoxin.
>
> Have you ever studied DNA Methylation?
>
> DNA methylation also plays a crucial role in the development of nearly
> all types of cancer.
>
> Carcinogens are a class of substances that are directly responsible
> for damaging DNA, promoting or aiding cancer. Tobacco, asbestos,
> arsenic, radiation such as gamma and x-rays, the sun, and compounds in
> car exhaust fumes are all examples of carcinogens. When our bodies are
> exposed to carcinogens, free radicals are formed that try to steal
> electrons from other molecules in the body. Theses free radicals
> damage cells and affect their ability to function normally.
>
> Cells can experience uncontrolled growth if there are damages or
> mutations to DNA, and therefore, damage to the genes involved in cell
> division. Four key types of gene are responsible for the cell division
> process: oncogenes tell cells when to divide, tumor suppressor genes
> tell cells when not to divide, suicide genes control apoptosis and
> tell the cell to kill itself if something goes wrong, and DNA-repair
> genes instruct a cell to repair damaged DNA.
>
> Cancer occurs when a cell's gene mutations make the cell unable to
> correct DNA damage and unable to commit suicide. Similarly, cancer is
> a result of mutations that inhibit oncogene and tumor suppressor gene
> function, leading to uncontrollable cell growth.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -



Do you know what genotoxins are?

When you have a partial damage to genes, you get an over expression,
(cancer) When the gene is completely destroyed, you land up with
diseases, ALS, DIABETES, Retts, Parkinsons, etc, etc...
===================================================
I'm going to respond to the earlier post later. This one I had to before
I took off.
You are painting with a rather large brush and huge strokes here. It
makes any point you may have look mighty weak and erroneous.

Let's take a simple one, Diabetes for instance. Completely destroy a
gene and that is what you get? No dear. Obesity does not destroy genes,
yet it influences the body and diabetes is a side effect. Lose weight
you lose the diabetes. I can go down your list and find similarities.
Cancers are often virus'. That is one reason there are difficulties in
treating various diseases that appear on the surface to be similar. How
else can on vaccinate for a cancer? Cancers can and do occur (show up as
tumors) in the brain for instance, but did not originate there, nor
belong there. It just took hold in an unfortunate place. The real cause
being a cancer of the lung. Possibly cigeratte caused. When the lungs
are checked they find the originating cancer, and BING! a perfect match
and reason for the brain tumor. Kill/eradicate the lung cancer, filter
the blood, watch for any future fallout from the blood stream and one
may be cancer free.

One does not need a partially damaged gene for any of this to happen.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

I sent some of my work to a professor of molecular science, four years
ago.
===========================================================
Good for you.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Here is a quote he wrote to me.


"In my opinion as a researcher this story could reveal very important
results for basic biology, neurobiology and clinics."
===========================================================
I see he enjoyed your "story". You misread his thoughts. :( Your story
more than likely showed some insites into other areas of your life
experiences that others can draw from. That alone is a big plus.








Now,
=======================================================
Now? :)


From: Jan Drew on
On Feb 12, 9:01�am, Mark Probert <mark.prob...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> On Feb 12, 7:27�am, Dona <donna.arn...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Feb 8, 8:51�pm, "Peter B" <origin...(a)frag.com> wrote:
>
> > > "Kevysmom" <kevysmo...(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> > >news:1865d665-6110-44bf-964a-393a4fc2792b(a)c4g2000yqa.googlegroups.com....
>
> > > >> > >http://childhealthsafety.wordpress.com:80/2010/02/08/britvaxautism/
>
> > > >> > You know what is so sad is how anyone can not see what the hell is
> > > >> > going on.
>
> > > >> As you so well demonstrate.
>
> > > > Are you trying to make a funny, You lose.
>
> > > >> > We have an epidemic of disabled children in the USA, one out of six
> > > >> > children is developmentally disabled. Some mild and some very
> > > >> > severe/
> > > >> > profoundly disabled.
>
> > > >> > One of the ignorant "non-thinkers" spouted, Autism is genetic! What
> > > >> > a
> > > >> > fool, he has no idea about how genetics work.
>
> > > >> That would be SHE has no idea, as proven by her next paragraph.
>
> > > > You obviously are the one that doesnt have a clue.
>
> > > >> > A person has genes, some are weaker than others, all you need is a
> > > >> > TRIGGER (Toxin) to wreck havoc on that weak gene and you land up
> > > >> > with
> > > >> > syptoms of that disease. This goes for cancer and EVERY single
> > > >> > disease
> > > >> > known to mankind. Thats why some develop throat cancer from smoking
> > > >> > while some dont, some develop lung cancer and some dont, some
> > > >> > develop
> > > >> > stomach cancer, it all depends on where that weak gene is the toxin
> > > >> > destroys.
>
> > > >> No, Donna, that is not why. There are two types of genetic traits,
> > > >> dominant and recessive. Please continue your education at:
>
> > > > Yes, and what happens is the weak gene gets overwhelmed by toxins and
> > > > the dominant gene cant keep up, the weaker gene gets destroyed, thus
> > > > you land up with diseases! EVERY disease, from Asthma to ALS is
> > > > genetic. It just needs a toxin to trigger it.
>
> > > Oh really? Then what toxic causes blue or brown eyes? Green eyes? Black
> > > eyes?
>
> > > Like Mark said, get an education, please,
>
> > > Many couples forgo having children knowing that trying for them will
> > > have a very high likelihood of early death, deformation, diseased, and
> > > so on. Dumb ones go ahead is spite of a Dr's recommendation and put
> > > their children through needless suffering.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > - Show quoted text -
> > > Oh really? Then what toxic causes blue or brown eyes? Green eyes? Black
> > > eyes?
>
> > Have you ever heard of albinism? The P-Gene(Regulates pigmentation) is
> > mutated in albinism, Both parents have normal genes.
>
> > Genotoxicity describes a deleterious action on a cell's genetic
> > material affecting its integrity. Genotoxic substances are known to be
> > potentially mutagenic or carcinogenic, specifically those capable of
> > causing genetic mutation and of contributing to the development of
> > tumors. This includes both certain chemical compounds and certain
> > types of radiation.
>
> > Typical genotoxins like aromatic amines are believed to cause
> > mutations because they are nucleophilic and form strong covalent bonds
> > with DNA resulting with the formation of Aromatic Amine-DNA Adducts,
> > preventing accurate replication.
>
> > Genotoxins affecting sperm and eggs can pass genetic changes down to
> > descendants who have never been exposed to the genotoxin.
>
> > Have you ever studied DNA Methylation?
>
> > DNA methylation also plays a crucial role in the development of nearly
> > all types of cancer.
>
> > Carcinogens are a class of substances that are directly responsible
> > for damaging DNA, promoting or aiding cancer. Tobacco, asbestos,
> > arsenic, radiation such as gamma and x-rays, the sun, and compounds in
> > car exhaust fumes are all examples of carcinogens. When our bodies are
> > exposed to carcinogens, free radicals are formed that try to steal
> > electrons from other molecules in the body. Theses free radicals
> > damage cells and affect their ability to function normally.
>
> > Cells can experience uncontrolled growth if there are damages or
> > mutations to DNA, and therefore, damage to the genes involved in cell
> > division. Four key types of gene are responsible for the cell division
> > process: oncogenes tell cells when to divide, tumor suppressor genes
> > tell cells when not to divide, suicide genes control apoptosis and
> > tell the cell to kill itself if something goes wrong, and DNA-repair
> > genes instruct a cell to repair damaged DNA.
>
> > Cancer occurs when a cell's gene mutations make the cell unable to
> > correct DNA damage and unable to commit suicide. Similarly, cancer is
> > a result of mutations that inhibit oncogene and tumor suppressor gene
> > function, leading to uncontrollable cell growth.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> Knowing you, you are incapable of writing that. Accordingly, you
> should have also posted the link, so the rest can be read.
>
> This is a form of intellectual dishonesty, which I have come to expect
> from you.

What more can be expected from a proven liar,harasser, hypocrite, and
disbarred lawyer who remain silent when disbarred. The, lied about it
over, and over.

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From: Jan Drew on
On Feb 12, 5:35�pm, Bob Officer <boboffic...(a)127.0.0.7> wrote:

Note: The author of this message requested that it not be archived.
This message will be removed from Groups in 6 days (Feb 19, 5:35 pm).


> On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 06:31:26 -0800 (PST), in misc.health.alternative,
>
> Kevysmom <kevysmo...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> Knowing you, you are incapable of writing that. Accordingly, you
> >> should have also posted the link, so the rest can be read.
>
> >I didnt write that, I copied and posted it.
>
> if you were a student it would be called cheating.
>
> >> This is a form of intellectual dishonesty, which I have come to expect
> >> from you.-
>
> >It was taken from different sites, I would assume, you knew that.
> >from now on I will post the link, For EVERYTHING I use... does that
> >make you happy?
>
> Do you like to play like you understood it?
>
> Because when you tried to explain how recessive genes work you showed
> everyone you didn't know squat.
>
> --
> Bob Officer
Spam and lies deleted.

The top line shows you are a chicken poster and a troll.

From: Peter B on
"Dona" <donna.arnold(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
news:3a34f91f-a9f6-470a-981c-9031a8df3fc3(a)q27g2000yqn.googlegroups.com...
On Feb 8, 8:51 pm, "Peter B" <origin...(a)frag.com> wrote:
> "Kevysmom" <kevysmo...(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:1865d665-6110-44bf-964a-393a4fc2792b(a)c4g2000yqa.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> >> > >http://childhealthsafety.wordpress.com:80/2010/02/08/britvaxautism/
>
> >> > You know what is so sad is how anyone can not see what the hell
> >> > is
> >> > going on.
>
> >> As you so well demonstrate.
>
> > Are you trying to make a funny, You lose.
>
> >> > We have an epidemic of disabled children in the USA, one out of
> >> > six
> >> > children is developmentally disabled. Some mild and some very
> >> > severe/
> >> > profoundly disabled.
>
> >> > One of the ignorant "non-thinkers" spouted, Autism is genetic!
> >> > What
> >> > a
> >> > fool, he has no idea about how genetics work.
>
> >> That would be SHE has no idea, as proven by her next paragraph.
>
> > You obviously are the one that doesnt have a clue.
>
> >> > A person has genes, some are weaker than others, all you need is
> >> > a
> >> > TRIGGER (Toxin) to wreck havoc on that weak gene and you land up
> >> > with
> >> > syptoms of that disease. This goes for cancer and EVERY single
> >> > disease
> >> > known to mankind. Thats why some develop throat cancer from
> >> > smoking
> >> > while some dont, some develop lung cancer and some dont, some
> >> > develop
> >> > stomach cancer, it all depends on where that weak gene is the
> >> > toxin
> >> > destroys.
>
> >> No, Donna, that is not why. There are two types of genetic traits,
> >> dominant and recessive. Please continue your education at:
>
> > Yes, and what happens is the weak gene gets overwhelmed by toxins
> > and
> > the dominant gene cant keep up, the weaker gene gets destroyed, thus
> > you land up with diseases! EVERY disease, from Asthma to ALS is
> > genetic. It just needs a toxin to trigger it.
>
> Oh really? Then what toxic causes blue or brown eyes? Green eyes?
> Black
> eyes?
>
> Like Mark said, get an education, please,
>
> Many couples forgo having children knowing that trying for them will
> have a very high likelihood of early death, deformation, diseased, and
> so on. Dumb ones go ahead is spite of a Dr's recommendation and put
> their children through needless suffering.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -



> Oh really? Then what toxic causes blue or brown eyes? Green eyes?
> Black
> eyes?



Have you ever heard of albinism? The P-Gene(Regulates pigmentation) is
mutated in albinism, Both parents have normal genes.

Genotoxicity describes a deleterious action on a cell's genetic
material affecting its integrity. Genotoxic substances are known to be
potentially mutagenic or carcinogenic, specifically those capable of
causing genetic mutation and of contributing to the development of
tumors. This includes both certain chemical compounds and certain
types of radiation.

Typical genotoxins like aromatic amines are believed to cause
mutations because they are nucleophilic and form strong covalent bonds
with DNA resulting with the formation of Aromatic Amine-DNA Adducts,
preventing accurate replication.

Genotoxins affecting sperm and eggs can pass genetic changes down to
descendants who have never been exposed to the genotoxin.



Have you ever studied DNA Methylation?


DNA methylation also plays a crucial role in the development of nearly
all types of cancer.


Carcinogens are a class of substances that are directly responsible
for damaging DNA, promoting or aiding cancer. Tobacco, asbestos,
arsenic, radiation such as gamma and x-rays, the sun, and compounds in
car exhaust fumes are all examples of carcinogens. When our bodies are
exposed to carcinogens, free radicals are formed that try to steal
electrons from other molecules in the body. Theses free radicals
damage cells and affect their ability to function normally.


Cells can experience uncontrolled growth if there are damages or
mutations to DNA, and therefore, damage to the genes involved in cell
division. Four key types of gene are responsible for the cell division
process: oncogenes tell cells when to divide, tumor suppressor genes
tell cells when not to divide, suicide genes control apoptosis and
tell the cell to kill itself if something goes wrong, and DNA-repair
genes instruct a cell to repair damaged DNA.

Cancer occurs when a cell's gene mutations make the cell unable to
correct DNA damage and unable to commit suicide. Similarly, cancer is
a result of mutations that inhibit oncogene and tumor suppressor gene
function, leading to uncontrollable cell growth.
=====================================================
Neither of these had to do with the thread. I suspected you did not
write them since you do not have the background but didn't know for
sure. In the post you wrote after this one I responded accordingly to
the one part in particular.

Now that I am back and saw the other posts to you regarding this it is
obvious that you did not write it and you admitted it. Sad, very
saddened by your intellectual dishonesty. I was going to bring up some
pertinent points as to how this did not apply in either section and some
of the errors in what you quoted as well. I see no reason to do so now.

I also noted in another post of yours that "cancer was a virus" and
called you a hypocrite because of this post.

Sorry, I should have used a far different expression but I won't at this
time.

Life would be much simpler for you if you just dealt with your problems
at hand. Stop the pretense.


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