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From: yeshuwa_is_my_lord on 23 Jul 2007 03:09
I just heard a report on the radio here in the Philippines were I
currently am that "researchers" in the U.K. have found brain
shrinkage
in people with Bi Polar Disorder or Manic Depression. This brain
shrinkage is not caused by disease but rather the poisoning of their
brains by psychiatric drugs. Not many years ago there was a similar
finding in the USA that schizophrenics had brain shrinkage over time.
This is caused by the drugs these people are given not disease. In
Dr.
Peter Breggins book Toxic Psychiatry it made it very clear that
studies of people's brains with "schizophrenia" revealed no
difference
between their brains and those of "normal" people. I do not know if
the researchers in the U.K. are trying to say that a disorder itself
is the cause of brain shrinkage in Bi Polar patients as E Fullar
Torrey tried to say with schizophrenics in the USA. The drugs being
given to both schizophrenics and Bi Polar people are neurotoxins so
of
cource people given these drugs will have brain shrinkage over time.
It is the result of these poison drugs not disease or a disorder.
Below is an older activist post to the internet.

Brain Shrinkage in "Schizophrenics" Caused by Drugs not Disease!


By Shemuwel Antoine Moser


Recently within the USA and possibly elsewhere there has been much
publicity within the media about so-called evidence of a biological
cause for "schizophrenia." Recent autopsies performed on several
"schizophrenics" revealed severe atrophy of the brain; also called
brain shrinkage.


An extremist psychiatrist named E. Fuller Torrey who is an aggressive
lobbyist for state sanctioned forced psychiatric drugging has taken
this information and is arguing for a biological cause for
"schizophrenia." Nothing could be further from the truth. The fact
is,
nearly every one of these autopsies were performed on people who have
taken antipsychotic drugs - also called neuroleptics or neuroleptic
drugs - for ten years or more. These autopsies rather than providing
evidence of a biological cause for schizophrenia, are actually
providing evidence that the neuroleptic drugs have caused the brain
shrinkage.


The truth is that before the advent of psychiatric medications,
thousands upon thousands of autopsies have been performed on so-
called
"schizophrenics"; which did not reveal any brain shrinkage
whatsoever.
For many years long before the advent of antipsychotic medications,
inmates of psychiatric institutions had no say so what so ever as to
what would be done with their bodies when they died. Most of these
inmates of the psychiatric institutions received autopsies where
their
brains were removed and used for scientific study, and their brains
were determined to be indistinguishable from that of a "normal"
brain.


The fallacious explanation of how this brain shrinkage is supposedly
supposed to occur is that as a person matures they start pruning off
dendrites but "schizophrenics" prune off an excessive number of
dendrites until their brains shrink severely. There is no real proof
whatsoever of these fallacious claims. What is actually happening
however is that when the chemical that makes up the drug blocks the
dopamine receptors on the ends of dendrites, therefore acting as a
chemical straight jacket by preventing neuronal communication between
dendrites, the receiving dendrites cut-off from communication from
its
neuronal mate can only make the assumption that its neuronal mate has
died. So the only option the neuron can make is to prune off that
dendrite because it has lost contact with the other neuron due to the
chemical strait jacket of the antipsychotic drugs. If a neuron looses
contact with enough dendrites the cell will commit "suicide" and die.


Rather than admit the truth about the severe brain damage that these
antipsychotic drugs are causing due to fear of an avalanche of
lawsuits, the government-backed psychiatric and pharmaceutical
establishments are seeking a cover-up by making the reprehensible
claim that the drug induced brain damage that they themselves are
causing is actually biological evidence for a cause of
"schizophrenia".


E. Fuller Torrey's last outrageous fallacious claim for a biological
cause for "schizophrenia" was that our brains were infected with the
herpes virus. E. Fuller Torrey is a manic fanatic that is foaming at
the mouth with the insatiable desire to force antipsychotic drugs on
anybody who violates the underwritten rules of society.


Now the rest of the government-backed psychiatric and pharmaceutical
establishments have jumped on E. Fuller Torrey's bandwagon for fear
of
going bankrupt due to an avalanche of lawsuits which would be the
result if they acknowledge the brain atrophy that they have caused to
thousands upon thousands of victims. Perhaps even millions.


Remember that it has not been that long ago since the psychiatric
establishment were performing brain butchering by jamming an ice pick
like instrument between the eyes of their "schizophrenic" victims and
then twirling the instrument around and around in circular like
motions thereby destroying the frontal lobes of the brain which they
called the lobotomy. Just as in the days of the lobotomy it is still
the psychiatric establishment's desire to cause those labeled
"insane"
serious brain damage.


Long before the days of the lobotomy the Hospital of St. Mary of
Bethlehem, an institution in London England for the "mentally ill"
from which the word bedlam was coined, psychiatric inmates were
chained to the wall and whipped with whips; thus the phrase "the
whips
and chains of bedlam." In Nazi Germany 260,000 to 280,000 psychiatric
inmates were executed by the Nazis as they were the very first
victims
of the holocaust.


After World War II under a top-secret program called Project Paper
Clip countless numbers of Nazi scientists were imported into the
United States; a good portion of them being psychiatrists. In fact so
many psychiatrists being former Nazis immigrated to the United States
of America that sometime after World War II one-third of all
psychiatrist in the United States were former Nazis. Many of these
went to work for the CIA and helped with their mind control programs
such as MKULTRA and MKDELTA. Many went into private practice while
others procured employment within universities to teach the USA's
next-
generation of psychiatrists.


It is not surprising that the government-controlled media in the USA
have jumped on the bandwagon of the government backed psychiatric and
pharmaceutical establishments to promote this horrendous cover-up.


The psychiatric establishment started out as state-sponsored hate
crimes against those who are different. Given the extremely long
sordid history of the psychiatric establishment in abusing those
labeled "insane" it is no wonder that they are willing to lie in
order
to cover up the incalculable damage that they have caused to
countless
numbers of their victims. It is incomprehensibly reprehensible that
the drug induced brain damage that the psychiatric and psychological
establishment are inflicting on their victims is actually being used
as "proof" of a biological cause for "schizophrenia". E. Fuller
Torrey
should be hung from the highest tree as quickly as possible. And the
government sponsored propaganda of the media should be ashamed of the
continued disinformation campaign concerning the issue of psychiatric
drugs and "mental illness". The "whips and chains of bedlam" live on.
They are now chemical in nature.


Recently the DoD (Department of Defense) has given E. Fuller Torrey
his own brain lab. Why would the DoD be interested in researching the
brain unless it is to continue the sinister mind control efforts
started by the CIA. These evil people will stop at nothing until they
obtain complete ownership and control of everyone's mind. Dan Rather
of CBS news parroted on national TV the words of E. Fuller Torrey .
Yes psychiatrists really are shrinks and they can shrink your brain
if
you don't get protection from the Almighty Father Yehovah. See
http://www.watchtower.org/ .


Read the book by the psychiatrist Dr.Peter R. Breggin, M.D. called
"Toxic Psychiatry" for more information on the brain shrinkage caused
by psychiatric drugs and the fraud and nemesis of all labeled with a
psychiatric label; Dr. E. Fuller Torrey.


List of neuroleptic drug names: Chlorpromazine, ( Brand names are as
follows; Chlor-PZ, Klorazine, Promachlor, Promapar, Sonazine,
Thorazine, Chlorprom, Chlor-Promanyl and Largactil ) Fluphenazine,
( Brand names are as follows; Permitil, Prolixin, Modecate, Moditen )
Mesoridazine Besylate, ( Brand name is Serentil ) Perphenazine,
( Brand names are as follows; Trilafon, Etrafon, Triavil, Phenazine
and Etrafon ) Prochlorperazine, ( Brand names are as follows;
Compazine and Stemetil ) Promazine Hydrocloride, ( Brand name
Sparine ) Thioridazine, ( Brand names are Mellaril, Novoridazine and
Thioril ) Trifuoperazine, ( Brand names are as follows; Stelazine,
Clinazine, Novaflurazine, Pentazine, Terfluzine and Triflurin )
Clozapine, ( Brand named Clozaril, in Germany called Leponex )
Haloperadol, ( Brand name Haldol ) Loxapine, ( Brand name Loxitane )
Pimozide ( Brand name is Orap ) Thiothixene, ( Brand name Navane )
Risperidone, Zyprexa ( Brand name is Olanzapine ), Sertindole,
Ziprasidone, Amperozide, Remoxipride, Melperone, Zotepine,
Isofloxythepin, Setoperone, Perospirone, Quetiapine. Also the
antidepressant drug Sertraline ( Brand name Zoloft ) is molecularly
indistinguishable from that of the neuroleptics and has even been
tried as a neuroleptic. This list contains generic names and many
brand names used in the USA and Canada. This list is by no means
comprehensive.

From: honeybearxo on 9 Aug 2007 15:05
On Jul 23, 3:09 am, yeshuwa_is_my_l...(a)yahoo.com wrote:
> I just heard a report on the radio here in the Philippines were I
> currently am that "researchers" in the U.K. have found brain
> shrinkage
> in people with Bi Polar Disorder or Manic Depression. This brain
> shrinkage is not caused by disease but rather the poisoning of their
> brains by psychiatric drugs. Not many years ago there was a similar
> finding in the USA that schizophrenics had brain shrinkage over time.
> This is caused by the drugs these people are given not disease. In
> Dr.
> Peter Breggins book Toxic Psychiatry it made it very clear that
> studies of people's brains with "schizophrenia" revealed no
> difference
> between their brains and those of "normal" people. I do not know if
> the researchers in the U.K. are trying to say that a disorder itself
> is the cause of brain shrinkage in Bi Polar patients as E Fullar
> Torrey tried to say with schizophrenics in the USA. The drugs being
> given to both schizophrenics and Bi Polar people are neurotoxins so
> of
> cource people given these drugs will have brain shrinkage over time.
> It is the result of these poison drugs not disease or a disorder.
> Below is an older activist post to the internet.
>
> Brain Shrinkage in "Schizophrenics" Caused by Drugs not Disease!
>
> By Shemuwel Antoine Moser
>
> Recently within the USA and possibly elsewhere there has been much
> publicity within the media about so-called evidence of a biological
> cause for "schizophrenia." Recent autopsies performed on several
> "schizophrenics" revealed severe atrophy of the brain; also called
> brain shrinkage.
>
> An extremist psychiatrist named E. Fuller Torrey who is an aggressive
> lobbyist for state sanctioned forced psychiatric drugging has taken
> this information and is arguing for a biological cause for
> "schizophrenia." Nothing could be further from the truth. The fact
> is,
> nearly every one of these autopsies were performed on people who have
> taken antipsychotic drugs - also called neuroleptics or neuroleptic
> drugs - for ten years or more. These autopsies rather than providing
> evidence of a biological cause for schizophrenia, are actually
> providing evidence that the neuroleptic drugs have caused the brain
> shrinkage.
>
> The truth is that before the advent of psychiatric medications,
> thousands upon thousands of autopsies have been performed on so-
> called
> "schizophrenics"; which did not reveal any brain shrinkage
> whatsoever.
> For many years long before the advent of antipsychotic medications,
> inmates of psychiatric institutions had no say so what so ever as to
> what would be done with their bodies when they died. Most of these
> inmates of the psychiatric institutions received autopsies where
> their
> brains were removed and used for scientific study, and their brains
> were determined to be indistinguishable from that of a "normal"
> brain.
>
> The fallacious explanation of how this brain shrinkage is supposedly
> supposed to occur is that as a person matures they start pruning off
> dendrites but "schizophrenics" prune off an excessive number of
> dendrites until their brains shrink severely. There is no real proof
> whatsoever of these fallacious claims. What is actually happening
> however is that when the chemical that makes up the drug blocks the
> dopamine receptors on the ends of dendrites, therefore acting as a
> chemical straight jacket by preventing neuronal communication between
> dendrites, the receiving dendrites cut-off from communication from
> its
> neuronal mate can only make the assumption that its neuronal mate has
> died. So the only option the neuron can make is to prune off that
> dendrite because it has lost contact with the other neuron due to the
> chemical strait jacket of the antipsychotic drugs. If a neuron looses
> contact with enough dendrites the cell will commit "suicide" and die.
>
> Rather than admit the truth about the severe brain damage that these
> antipsychotic drugs are causing due to fear of an avalanche of
> lawsuits, the government-backed psychiatric and pharmaceutical
> establishments are seeking a cover-up by making the reprehensible
> claim that the drug induced brain damage that they themselves are
> causing is actually biological evidence for a cause of
> "schizophrenia".
>
> E. Fuller Torrey's last outrageous fallacious claim for a biological
> cause for "schizophrenia" was that our brains were infected with the
> herpes virus. E. Fuller Torrey is a manic fanatic that is foaming at
> the mouth with the insatiable desire to force antipsychotic drugs on
> anybody who violates the underwritten rules of society.
>
> Now the rest of the government-backed psychiatric and pharmaceutical
> establishments have jumped on E. Fuller Torrey's bandwagon for fear
> of
> going bankrupt due to an avalanche of lawsuits which would be the
> result if they acknowledge the brain atrophy that they have caused to
> thousands upon thousands of victims. Perhaps even millions.
>
> Remember that it has not been that long ago since the psychiatric
> establishment were performing brain butchering by jamming an ice pick
> like instrument between the eyes of their "schizophrenic" victims and
> then twirling the instrument around and around in circular like
> motions thereby destroying the frontal lobes of the brain which they
> called the lobotomy. Just as in the days of the lobotomy it is still
> the psychiatric establishment's desire to cause those labeled
> "insane"
> serious brain damage.
>
> Long before the days of the lobotomy the Hospital of St. Mary of
> Bethlehem, an institution in London England for the "mentally ill"
> from which the word bedlam was coined, psychiatric inmates were
> chained to the wall and whipped with whips; thus the phrase "the
> whips
> and chains of bedlam." In Nazi Germany 260,000 to 280,000 psychiatric
> inmates were executed by the Nazis as they were the very first
> victims
> of the holocaust.
>
> After World War II under a top-secret program called Project Paper
> Clip countless numbers of Nazi scientists were imported into the
> United States; a good portion of them being psychiatrists. In fact so
> many psychiatrists being former Nazis immigrated to the United States
> of America that sometime after World War II one-third of all
> psychiatrist in the United States were former Nazis. Many of these
> went to work for the CIA and helped with their mind control programs
> such as MKULTRA and MKDELTA. Many went into private practice while
> others procured employment within universities to teach the USA's
> next-
> generation of psychiatrists.
>
> It is not surprising that the government-controlled media in the USA
> have jumped on the bandwagon of the government backed psychiatric and
> pharmaceutical establishments to promote this horrendous cover-up.
>
> The psychiatric establishment started out as state-sponsored hate
> crimes against those who are different. Given the extremely long
> sordid history of the psychiatric establishment in abusing those
> labeled "insane" it is no wonder that they are willing to lie in
> order
> to cover up the incalculable damage that they have caused to
> countless
> numbers of their victims. It is incomprehensibly reprehensible that
> the drug induced brain damage that the psychiatric and psychological
> establishment are inflicting on their victims is actually being used
> as "proof" of a biological cause for "schizophrenia". E. Fuller
> Torrey
> should be hung from the highest tree as quickly as possible. And the
> government sponsored propaganda of the media should be ashamed of the
> continued disinformation campaign concerning the issue of psychiatric
> drugs and "mental illness". The "whips and chains of bedlam" live on.
> They are now chemical in nature.
>
> Recently the DoD (Department of Defense) has given E. Fuller Torrey
> his own brain lab. Why would the DoD be interested in researching the
> brain unless it is to continue the sinister mind control efforts
> started by the CIA. These evil people will stop at nothing until they
> obtain complete ownership and control of everyone's mind. Dan Rather
> of CBS news parroted on national TV the words of E. Fuller Torrey .
> Yes psychiatrists really are shrinks and they can shrink your brain
> if
> you don't get protection from the Almighty Father Yehovah. Seehttp://www.watchtower.org/.
>
> Read the book by the psychiatrist Dr.Peter R. Breggin, M.D. called
> "Toxic Psychiatry" for more information on the brain shrinkage caused
> by psychiatric drugs and the fraud and nemesis of all labeled with a
> psychiatric label; Dr. E. Fuller Torrey.
>
> List of neuroleptic drug names: Chlorpromazine, ( Brand names are as
> follows; Chlor-PZ, Klorazine, Promachlor, Promapar, Sonazine,
> Thorazine, Chlorprom, Chlor-Promanyl and Largactil ) Fluphenazine,
> ( Brand names are as follows; Permitil, Prolixin, Modecate, Moditen )
> Mesoridazine Besylate, ( Brand name is Serentil ) Perphenazine,
> ( Brand names are as follows; Trilafon, Etrafon, Triavil, Phenazine
> and Etrafon ) Prochlorperazine, ( Brand names are as follows;
> Compazine and Stemetil ) Promazine Hydrocloride, ( Brand name
> Sparine ) Thioridazine, ( Brand names are Mellaril, Novoridazine and
> Thioril ) Trifuoperazine, ( Brand names are as follows; Stelazine,
> Clinazine, Novaflurazine, Pentazine, Terfluzine and Triflurin )
> Clozapine, ( Brand named Clozaril, in Germany called Leponex )
> Haloperadol, ( Brand name Haldol ) Loxapine, ( Brand name Loxitane )
> Pimozide ( Brand name is Orap ) Thiothixene, ( Brand name Navane )
> Risperidone, Zyprexa ( Brand name is Olanzapine ), Sertindole,
> Ziprasidone, Amperozide, Remoxipride, Melperone, Zotepine,
> Isofloxythepin, Setoperone, Perospirone, Quetiapine. Also the
> antidepressant drug Sertraline ( Brand name Zoloft ) is molecularly
> indistinguishable from that of the neuroleptics and has even been
> tried as a neuroleptic. This list contains generic names and many
> brand names used in the USA and Canada. This list is by no means
> comprehensive.

very intersting.i was given thorazine also mellarill for just
depression.last time i went to dr.for appt he had just skipped town
with no forwarding address.guee i wonder why/this was about 15 years
ago.i now have a problem rememberingf my child hood.even my childrens
child hood.i have much younger thoughts that i should have at my age.i
wonder has these meds plus many more he gave me.has meesed up my
head.all i would have to do was open my purse in his drug room.he
would just fill it up with all different drugs telling me to take one
kind for awhile.then try a different one.wow i sure wish i had done
some thing years ago and reported this to the atoraties.but i guess i
was so drugged up i didnt know what to do.im sure glad im here to talk
about it now.
thanks for listeningto me.

From: Doug Laidlaw on 10 Aug 2007 20:16
honeybearxo wrote:

> On Jul 23, 3:09 am, yeshuwa_is_my_l...(a)yahoo.com wrote:
>> I just heard a report on the radio here in the Philippines were I
>> currently am that "researchers" in the U.K. have found brain
>> shrinkage
>> in people with Bi Polar Disorder or Manic Depression. This brain
>> shrinkage is not caused by disease but rather the poisoning of their
>> brains by psychiatric drugs. Not many years ago there was a similar
>> finding in the USA that schizophrenics had brain shrinkage over time.
>> This is caused by the drugs these people are given not disease. In
>> Dr.
>> Peter Breggins book Toxic Psychiatry it made it very clear that
>> studies of people's brains with "schizophrenia" revealed no
>> difference
>> between their brains and those of "normal" people. I do not know if
>> the researchers in the U.K. are trying to say that a disorder itself
>> is the cause of brain shrinkage in Bi Polar patients as E Fullar
>> Torrey tried to say with schizophrenics in the USA. The drugs being
>> given to both schizophrenics and Bi Polar people are neurotoxins so
>> of
>> cource people given these drugs will have brain shrinkage over time.
>> It is the result of these poison drugs not disease or a disorder.
>> Below is an older activist post to the internet.
>>
>> Brain Shrinkage in "Schizophrenics" Caused by Drugs not Disease!
>>
>> By Shemuwel Antoine Moser
>>
>> Recently within the USA and possibly elsewhere there has been much
>> publicity within the media about so-called evidence of a biological
>> cause for "schizophrenia." Recent autopsies performed on several
>> "schizophrenics" revealed severe atrophy of the brain; also called
>> brain shrinkage.
>>
>> An extremist psychiatrist named E. Fuller Torrey who is an aggressive
>> lobbyist for state sanctioned forced psychiatric drugging has taken
>> this information and is arguing for a biological cause for
>> "schizophrenia." Nothing could be further from the truth. The fact
>> is,
>> nearly every one of these autopsies were performed on people who have
>> taken antipsychotic drugs - also called neuroleptics or neuroleptic
>> drugs - for ten years or more. These autopsies rather than providing
>> evidence of a biological cause for schizophrenia, are actually
>> providing evidence that the neuroleptic drugs have caused the brain
>> shrinkage.
>>
>> The truth is that before the advent of psychiatric medications,
>> thousands upon thousands of autopsies have been performed on so-
>> called
>> "schizophrenics"; which did not reveal any brain shrinkage
>> whatsoever.
>> For many years long before the advent of antipsychotic medications,
>> inmates of psychiatric institutions had no say so what so ever as to
>> what would be done with their bodies when they died. Most of these
>> inmates of the psychiatric institutions received autopsies where
>> their
>> brains were removed and used for scientific study, and their brains
>> were determined to be indistinguishable from that of a "normal"
>> brain.
>>
>> The fallacious explanation of how this brain shrinkage is supposedly
>> supposed to occur is that as a person matures they start pruning off
>> dendrites but "schizophrenics" prune off an excessive number of
>> dendrites until their brains shrink severely. There is no real proof
>> whatsoever of these fallacious claims. What is actually happening
>> however is that when the chemical that makes up the drug blocks the
>> dopamine receptors on the ends of dendrites, therefore acting as a
>> chemical straight jacket by preventing neuronal communication between
>> dendrites, the receiving dendrites cut-off from communication from
>> its
>> neuronal mate can only make the assumption that its neuronal mate has
>> died. So the only option the neuron can make is to prune off that
>> dendrite because it has lost contact with the other neuron due to the
>> chemical strait jacket of the antipsychotic drugs. If a neuron looses
>> contact with enough dendrites the cell will commit "suicide" and die.
>>
>> Rather than admit the truth about the severe brain damage that these
>> antipsychotic drugs are causing due to fear of an avalanche of
>> lawsuits, the government-backed psychiatric and pharmaceutical
>> establishments are seeking a cover-up by making the reprehensible
>> claim that the drug induced brain damage that they themselves are
>> causing is actually biological evidence for a cause of
>> "schizophrenia".
>>
>> E. Fuller Torrey's last outrageous fallacious claim for a biological
>> cause for "schizophrenia" was that our brains were infected with the
>> herpes virus. E. Fuller Torrey is a manic fanatic that is foaming at
>> the mouth with the insatiable desire to force antipsychotic drugs on
>> anybody who violates the underwritten rules of society.
>>
>> Now the rest of the government-backed psychiatric and pharmaceutical
>> establishments have jumped on E. Fuller Torrey's bandwagon for fear
>> of
>> going bankrupt due to an avalanche of lawsuits which would be the
>> result if they acknowledge the brain atrophy that they have caused to
>> thousands upon thousands of victims. Perhaps even millions.
>>
>> Remember that it has not been that long ago since the psychiatric
>> establishment were performing brain butchering by jamming an ice pick
>> like instrument between the eyes of their "schizophrenic" victims and
>> then twirling the instrument around and around in circular like
>> motions thereby destroying the frontal lobes of the brain which they
>> called the lobotomy. Just as in the days of the lobotomy it is still
>> the psychiatric establishment's desire to cause those labeled
>> "insane"
>> serious brain damage.
>>
>> Long before the days of the lobotomy the Hospital of St. Mary of
>> Bethlehem, an institution in London England for the "mentally ill"
>> from which the word bedlam was coined, psychiatric inmates were
>> chained to the wall and whipped with whips; thus the phrase "the
>> whips
>> and chains of bedlam." In Nazi Germany 260,000 to 280,000 psychiatric
>> inmates were executed by the Nazis as they were the very first
>> victims
>> of the holocaust.
>>
>> After World War II under a top-secret program called Project Paper
>> Clip countless numbers of Nazi scientists were imported into the
>> United States; a good portion of them being psychiatrists. In fact so
>> many psychiatrists being former Nazis immigrated to the United States
>> of America that sometime after World War II one-third of all
>> psychiatrist in the United States were former Nazis. Many of these
>> went to work for the CIA and helped with their mind control programs
>> such as MKULTRA and MKDELTA. Many went into private practice while
>> others procured employment within universities to teach the USA's
>> next-
>> generation of psychiatrists.
>>
>> It is not surprising that the government-controlled media in the USA
>> have jumped on the bandwagon of the government backed psychiatric and
>> pharmaceutical establishments to promote this horrendous cover-up.
>>
>> The psychiatric establishment started out as state-sponsored hate
>> crimes against those who are different. Given the extremely long
>> sordid history of the psychiatric establishment in abusing those
>> labeled "insane" it is no wonder that they are willing to lie in
>> order
>> to cover up the incalculable damage that they have caused to
>> countless
>> numbers of their victims. It is incomprehensibly reprehensible that
>> the drug induced brain damage that the psychiatric and psychological
>> establishment are inflicting on their victims is actually being used
>> as "proof" of a biological cause for "schizophrenia". E. Fuller
>> Torrey
>> should be hung from the highest tree as quickly as possible. And the
>> government sponsored propaganda of the media should be ashamed of the
>> continued disinformation campaign concerning the issue of psychiatric
>> drugs and "mental illness". The "whips and chains of bedlam" live on.
>> They are now chemical in nature.
>>
>> Recently the DoD (Department of Defense) has given E. Fuller Torrey
>> his own brain lab. Why would the DoD be interested in researching the
>> brain unless it is to continue the sinister mind control efforts
>> started by the CIA. These evil people will stop at nothing until they
>> obtain complete ownership and control of everyone's mind. Dan Rather
>> of CBS news parroted on national TV the words of E. Fuller Torrey .
>> Yes psychiatrists really are shrinks and they can shrink your brain
>> if
>> you don't get protection from the Almighty Father Yehovah.
>> Seehttp://www.watchtower.org/.
>>
>> Read the book by the psychiatrist Dr.Peter R. Breggin, M.D. called
>> "Toxic Psychiatry" for more information on the brain shrinkage caused
>> by psychiatric drugs and the fraud and nemesis of all labeled with a
>> psychiatric label; Dr. E. Fuller Torrey.
>>
>> List of neuroleptic drug names: Chlorpromazine, ( Brand names are as
>> follows; Chlor-PZ, Klorazine, Promachlor, Promapar, Sonazine,
>> Thorazine, Chlorprom, Chlor-Promanyl and Largactil ) Fluphenazine,
>> ( Brand names are as follows; Permitil, Prolixin, Modecate, Moditen )
>> Mesoridazine Besylate, ( Brand name is Serentil ) Perphenazine,
>> ( Brand names are as follows; Trilafon, Etrafon, Triavil, Phenazine
>> and Etrafon ) Prochlorperazine, ( Brand names are as follows;
>> Compazine and Stemetil ) Promazine Hydrocloride, ( Brand name
>> Sparine ) Thioridazine, ( Brand names are Mellaril, Novoridazine and
>> Thioril ) Trifuoperazine, ( Brand names are as follows; Stelazine,
>> Clinazine, Novaflurazine, Pentazine, Terfluzine and Triflurin )
>> Clozapine, ( Brand named Clozaril, in Germany called Leponex )
>> Haloperadol, ( Brand name Haldol ) Loxapine, ( Brand name Loxitane )
>> Pimozide ( Brand name is Orap ) Thiothixene, ( Brand name Navane )
>> Risperidone, Zyprexa ( Brand name is Olanzapine ), Sertindole,
>> Ziprasidone, Amperozide, Remoxipride, Melperone, Zotepine,
>> Isofloxythepin, Setoperone, Perospirone, Quetiapine. Also the
>> antidepressant drug Sertraline ( Brand name Zoloft ) is molecularly
>> indistinguishable from that of the neuroleptics and has even been
>> tried as a neuroleptic. This list contains generic names and many
>> brand names used in the USA and Canada. This list is by no means
>> comprehensive.
>
> very intersting.i was given thorazine also mellarill for just
> depression.last time i went to dr.for appt he had just skipped town
> with no forwarding address.guee i wonder why/this was about 15 years
> ago.i now have a problem rememberingf my child hood.even my childrens
> child hood.i have much younger thoughts that i should have at my age.i
> wonder has these meds plus many more he gave me.has meesed up my
> head.all i would have to do was open my purse in his drug room.he
> would just fill it up with all different drugs telling me to take one
> kind for awhile.then try a different one.wow i sure wish i had done
> some thing years ago and reported this to the atoraties.but i guess i
> was so drugged up i didnt know what to do.im sure glad im here to talk
> about it now.
> thanks for listeningto me.

I was diagnosed with depression when very young. I am having similar
symptoms to what you describe, and I am under the supervision of a
psychiatrist who is very much into natural remedies. She attributes my
lack of memory to vitamin deficiency. Tests show that I am deficient in
Vitamin B6, which is essential in the building of serotonin and GABA. And
if I can't manufacture my own serotonin... So I am starting a 6 month
trial vitamin program, tailored to my test results. I will report here at
the end of it. For more details, see http://www.hriptc.org/

Brain size can be due to a lot of things. I have one hemisphere smaller
than the other, but still came Dux of my school. Some brain shrinkage is
normal with ageing, and I am coming up to 65. Whether the shrinkage has
any effect, or whether the brain has surplus capacity, is being debated at
the moment. I am certainly worse at the moment, but it is our winter now,
and I am always worse in winter.

All drugs have some side effects. The drug that does only its job and
nothing else, has yet to be invented. I have seen quite a few mentally ill
people who thought that they could get better if they were taken off
medication completely. It just isn't so.

I had a neurologist from birth. He kept me on phenobarb for 20 years,
against the view of more progressive doctors. We have no idea what damage
it caused. Phenobarb is known to have problems, but it is still popular in
Third World countries because it is cheap. He was probably just old and
set in his ways. He has been dead for many years.

A person I know derived great benefit from trans-cranial magnetic
stimulation, but at the present state of development, it is very
experimental, with only a 60% success rate.

I tend to be biased against any member of the Jehovah's Witnesses: are they
followers of Yeshua (Jesus) or of Yehovah of the Old Testament? But here
I have avoided prejudice and stuck to fact. Religion can be good
psychology: read the Sermon on the Mount daily, and put it into practice.
It is psychotherapy in a nutshell, but I inherited depression, and talk
therapy alone is not enough in my case.

Doug L.
--
If we do not believe in freedom of speech for those we despise we do not
believe in it at all.
- Noam Chomsky

From: Moop on 13 Aug 2007 13:35
Hi!
Nobody here will read that entire passage. It would make much more
sense if you summarised your passage, and cited your sources.
I only read the title, as I'm not going to spend my free time reading
some passage about the side effects of antipsychotic drugs. I could
read the side effects from wikipedia, which is more clear cut and
summarised. The format presented on wikipedia is much easier to read,
unlike your text.
Next time you post something to this effect on this message board,
please use a well summarised format.

Antipsychotic medications are known to cause undesirable side effects,
everyone knows that. Things more worrisome than our brain shrinking.
Such as TD or tumours caused by Risperdal. We're not stupid.

You also have too much free time to criticize other people. The time
you wrote that, or someone else, was wasted. You basically wasted time
in your life.
People DON'T CARE.

People of the same sex are having sex. Nobody cares.
Your wasting your time online criticizing people with mental
illnesses. Nobody cares.
People are wasting their entire life watching TV or playing video
games. Nobody cares.
Many people only eat McDonald's foods on a daily basis with a poor
diet. Nobody cares.

People are too busy doing nothing to care about what you have to talk
about.

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