Braces Without Parental Signature
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From: Penny on 27 Nov 2005 04:40 My Ex-husbands girlfriend recently took our 13 yrs. old daughter to an orthodontist- signed consent forms, hippa and contractual forms to have procedures completed without my prior knowledge or parental consent. The day this occurred both my ex-husband and myself were in court. Our 13yr. old daughter had no information for contact purposes and ex-husband refused to cooperate with information until her braces came apart within 48 hours after procedure was completed by orthodontist. Emergency numbers were called-found on a bottle that the orthodontic company supplied for rinsing- staff not available to repair dental work on our daughter during the weekend and could not tell me whom applied the braces. The next business day I found the orthodontist who completed the procedure- he is a Senior Partner in the firm- checked our daughters records and said the girlfriend misrepresented herself to him as a "legal stepparent" which he understands now that she is not married to my ex-husband and had no right to sign any of the dental forms for procedure. The orthodontist and I discussed the lack of parental signatures and permission (we have joint legal custody in NY)- and his response was" How would he know" . To my knowledge- the orthodontist would be calling my ex-husband in to sign all of the consent, hippa and contractual forms that his girlfriend signed- originals the next business day. The orthodontist wants me to sign a release of records form that he had his staff write before I pick up our daughters records. The orthodontist is going to continue working our daughter he states unless someone tells him not to... He understands that my attorney will not let me sign anything without reviewing the release form which we do not still have at this time. The orthodontist insists that "they"- the girlfriend and my ex-husband made a mistake and- the second business day we discussed the release form he says he talked with my ex-husband and he had "Verbal" permission to complete procedures on our daughter before they were completed. Please advise.
From: Vaughn on 27 Nov 2005 09:35 "Penny" <daleypenny(a)yahoo-dot-com.no-spam.invalid> wrote in message news:P7udnbyceoic4hTeRVn_vQ(a)giganews.com... > Please advise. Advise about what for God's sake? In your zeal to make life difficult for your ex-husband, you are making life hell for your daughter and even involving innocent bystanders into the furball. Work things out directy with your ex, and get a life. Vaughn >
From: Stovepipe on 27 Nov 2005 13:19 Vaughn <vaughnsimonHATESSPAM(a)att.fake.net> wrote: > "Penny" <daleypenny(a)yahoo-dot-com.no-spam.invalid> wrote in message > news:P7udnbyceoic4hTeRVn_vQ(a)giganews.com... > > Please advise. > > Advise about what for God's sake? In your zeal to make life > difficult for your ex-husband, you are making life hell for your daughter > and even involving innocent bystanders into the furball. Work things out > directy with your ex, and get a life. > > Vaughn > 110 percent agreement here, Madame. It sounds like notwithstanding the bitching between yourself and your ex, your daughter needs braces. The only advice I can offer is to get a second opinion from another ortho to insure the treatment plan is correct and reasonable. It also sounds like your lawyer is running your life. Good luck SP -- Take out the TRAASH to reply
From: Steven Bornfeld on 27 Nov 2005 19:27 Penny wrote: > My Ex-husbands girlfriend recently took our 13 yrs. old daughter to an > orthodontist- signed consent forms, hippa and contractual forms to > have procedures completed without my prior knowledge or parental > consent. > > The day this occurred both my ex-husband and myself were in court. > Our 13yr. old daughter had no information for contact purposes and > ex-husband refused to cooperate with information until her braces > came apart within 48 hours after procedure was completed by > orthodontist. > > Emergency numbers were called-found on a bottle that the orthodontic > company supplied for rinsing- staff not available to repair dental > work on our daughter during the weekend and could not tell me whom > applied the braces. > > The next business day I found the orthodontist who completed the > procedure- he is a Senior Partner in the firm- checked our daughters > records and said the girlfriend misrepresented herself to him as a > "legal stepparent" which he understands now that she is not married > to my ex-husband and had no right to sign any of the dental forms for > procedure. > > The orthodontist and I discussed the lack of parental signatures and > permission (we have joint legal custody in NY)- and his response was" > How would he know" . To my knowledge- the orthodontist would be > calling my ex-husband in to sign all of the consent, hippa and > contractual forms that his girlfriend signed- originals the next > business day. > > The orthodontist wants me to sign a release of records form that he > had his staff write before I pick up our daughters records. The > orthodontist is going to continue working our daughter he states > unless someone tells him not to... > He understands that my attorney will not let me sign anything without > reviewing the release form which we do not still have at this time. > The orthodontist insists that "they"- the girlfriend and my > ex-husband made a mistake and- the second business day we discussed > the release form he says he talked with my ex-husband and he had > "Verbal" permission to complete procedures on our daughter before > they were completed. > > Please advise. I can't see how the orthodontist can be blamed--I see no evidence that he didn't act in good faith. It is clear that your ex's gf had no authority to consent to your daughter's treatment. However, whether your ex husband may depends upon your custody agreement. This obviously is a legal matter, and totally separate from the suitability of any orthodontic treatment. Steve >
From: Tony Bad on 27 Nov 2005 21:32
My advice is to not make your problems your dentist's, physician's, orthodontist's, etc. I have been used as a ping pong ball before when two ex's decided to go to war using their children as ammo. It sucks. I had one parent telling me to do work, some which was elective, then, once completed, told me I needed to get the other half of the money from her ex, who told me he had no money. It sounds like your daughter needed braces, and the orthodontist acted in good faith when someone brought her in for treatment. If she shouldn't have been brought for care, your problem should be with your ex and his girlfriend...don't make the orthodontist the scapegoat for doing needed work. T "Penny" <daleypenny(a)yahoo-dot-com.no-spam.invalid> wrote in message news:P7udnbyceoic4hTeRVn_vQ(a)giganews.com... > My Ex-husbands girlfriend recently took our 13 yrs. old daughter to an > orthodontist- signed consent forms, hippa and contractual forms to > have procedures completed without my prior knowledge or parental > consent. > > The day this occurred both my ex-husband and myself were in court. > Our 13yr. old daughter had no information for contact purposes and > ex-husband refused to cooperate with information until her braces > came apart within 48 hours after procedure was completed by > orthodontist. > > Emergency numbers were called-found on a bottle that the orthodontic > company supplied for rinsing- staff not available to repair dental > work on our daughter during the weekend and could not tell me whom > applied the braces. > > The next business day I found the orthodontist who completed the > procedure- he is a Senior Partner in the firm- checked our daughters > records and said the girlfriend misrepresented herself to him as a > "legal stepparent" which he understands now that she is not married > to my ex-husband and had no right to sign any of the dental forms for > procedure. > > The orthodontist and I discussed the lack of parental signatures and > permission (we have joint legal custody in NY)- and his response was" > How would he know" . To my knowledge- the orthodontist would be > calling my ex-husband in to sign all of the consent, hippa and > contractual forms that his girlfriend signed- originals the next > business day. > > The orthodontist wants me to sign a release of records form that he > had his staff write before I pick up our daughters records. The > orthodontist is going to continue working our daughter he states > unless someone tells him not to... > He understands that my attorney will not let me sign anything without > reviewing the release form which we do not still have at this time. > The orthodontist insists that "they"- the girlfriend and my > ex-husband made a mistake and- the second business day we discussed > the release form he says he talked with my ex-husband and he had > "Verbal" permission to complete procedures on our daughter before > they were completed. > > Please advise. > |