From: ChickenBall Hosting on
I've read conflicting ranges as to what is the normal mmol/L reading? I am
type II and am trying to get more serious about my diabtese. Thanks.


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"ChickenBall Hosting" <infobooth(a)chickenball.net> wrote in message
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> I've read conflicting ranges as to what is the normal mmol/L reading? I am
> type II and am trying to get more serious about my diabtese. Thanks.
>

There will be a few folks here advising you. As with all groups some of the
info is good, some not so good and there are a few that are totally whacked.

Living in Alberta Canada is good tho. Capital Health has free classes for
you. Drop by the RA Hospital and ask about their diabetes clinic (free). A
couple of one day classes. I took mine at the MIS. Actually they should
have been in contact with you to ask if you were interested if your Doc had
sent them any info about you but I don't think there is any problem if
he/she didn't.

The diabetes nurse will also check you out and ask if you want to see the
diabetes Doctor.

I'll include my sig... it has a few good links.

--
Dave, Type2 (day 0, May 31/05), Canada
175 cm. @ 84/81/79.5/ **71 Kg.

day 0 -diagnosed @ 11.8 mmol/L. -7.0 set as an initial target*.
Prescribed Drug: Metformin 500MG, -twice per day.
day 90 -Prescribed Drug: Simvastatin (Zocor) 40MG, -one a day.
HbA1c: 6.1
Cholesterol: 5.07
HDL: 1.35
LDL: 3.26 - Doc says < 2, so Zocor prescribed.
Triglyceride: 1.01

BMI: 27.4/26.0/ **23.2
www.lambtonhealth.on.ca/diabetes/choicesbmi.asp
Diet: G.I. Diet -By Rick Gallop. ISBN 0-679-31056-8
http://gidiet.com/
*Target: Canadian Diabetes Association
www.diabetes.ca/Section_About/rdsupplement.asp
- scroll down to 'Keep your eye on targets'
Guidelines: Canadian Diabetes Association
www.diabetes.ca/cpg2003/default.aspx
- pdf downloads, read disclaimer upper right
Meter: OneTouch UltraSmart (Electronic Log, -nice).
http://www.onetouch.ca/english/
Pedometer: Get one. 10,000 steps a day is good.
14,749 steps my best day.
** Targets achieved.


From: Jenny on
ChickenBall Hosting wrote:
> I've read conflicting ranges as to what is the normal mmol/L reading? I am
> type II and am trying to get more serious about my diabtese. Thanks.
>
>

True normal is in a tight range near 4.7 mmol/l (85 mg/dl). Many people
here have posted about testing colleagues and relatives and never seeing
numbers over 5.5 mmol/l (100 mg/dl) no matter what they'd eaten.

The Joslin Diabetes Clinic defined normal more loosely as under 7.6
mmol/l (140 mg/dl) at 2 hours.

I did a bunch of research a while back and have posted the journal
articles I found that pointed to 7.6 mmol/L (140 mg/dl) at two hours as
the level at which serious neuropathy begins to become more frequent.

The American College of Clinical Endocrinologists recommends keeping
blood sugars under 7.6 mmol/L at 2 hours, probably because this is what
the research points to.

However, recently published new research has found that for every 1%
rise in hbA1c over 4.6% the risk of heart attack increases 2.5 times.
This reinforced previous studies that showed heart attack risk
decreasing dramatically at A1cs under 5% and becoming quite high as A1cs
go over 6%. So it looks pretty obvious that a person with diabetes
would want to do something to get that A1c under 6% if possible.

Doctors will tell you an A1c of 7% is fine because studies have shown
that at this level the risk of retinopathy decreases--what they don't
tell you is that at that level, while it is not as bad as at higher
levels it is still significant.

So while the usual doctor-recommended level for diabetics might save you
from blindness ("might", not "does") this becomes academic if you keel
over and die from a heart attack with vision intact.

So the answer for anyone with diabetes is this: the best blood sugar
level you can attain is the LOWEST you can attain without experiencing
hypos. For a person with type 2 diabetes controlling with diet and oral
drugs, under 5.5 mmol/l (100 mg/dl) as much as possible is ideal if you
can do it.

I you are a Type 2, cutting back significantly on carbohydrates and
adjusting meds may make this a reachable target. There are people
posting here who have brought their A1cs down from over 10% to the 5%
range and even a few who have gotten lower.
From: ChickenBall Hosting on
Jenny <lottadata(a)hotmail.com> wrote:

> True normal is in a tight range near 4.7 mmol/l (85 mg/dl). Many
> people here have posted about testing colleagues and relatives and
> never seeing numbers over 5.5 mmol/l (100 mg/dl) no matter what they'd
> eaten.

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Wow, that's alot of info to absorb. Thanks sharing though.


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From: Jenny on
ChickenBall Hosting wrote:
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> Wow, that's alot of info to absorb. Thanks sharing though.
>
>
I forgot to post the link to the site that has the links to the research
on blood sugar levels and health and more in-depth discussion:
http://www.geocities.com/lottadata4u/