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From: pearl on 14 Feb 2007 09:17 Vets to get results on Hungarian-bound turkey meat Publisher: Ian Morgan Published: 12/02/2007 - 08:22:17 AM Bird flu outbreak controversy rages on Vets will receive the results today of tests on meat transported from the UK to Hungary after the British bird flu outbreak, according to reports. Channel 4 News reported yesterday that Hungarian vets were carrying out tests on the processed meat, said to have been taken from the Suffolk farm at the centre of the outbreak to Hungary in the past few days. Vets would get the results of those tests today, the programme said. Yesterday the Sunday Times claimed lorryloads of turkey meat had been taken from Bernard Matthews' farm in Holton, Suffolk, to Hungary as late as three days after bird flu was confirmed at the farm on February 1. Also yesterday, Environment Secretary David Miliband laid the blame for the bird flu outbreak at the farm squarely at the door of the British firm. It followed the Government's announcement on Thursday that scientists would be examining a food processing plant on the Holton farm - and that the virus had spread to three more of the farm's 21 sheds. An exclusion zone has been in place around the farm since the H5N1 strain took hold there. Bernard Matthews said on Thursday that it had suspended all further trade between Hungary and the UK. Last night the Government admitted poultry products from the Suffolk farm could have been moved out of the restricted area. The Department of Environment, Food and Rural Affairs (Defra) said it could have done so if licensing requirements for movement outside the restricted zone were met. A spokesman said: "There are clear and published rules for the movement of poultry product from restricted areas. All processing of poultry products is overseen by the Meat Hygiene Service which is part of the Food Standards Agency. "Depending on the type of product, date of slaughter and which farm it originated on, it is possible that poultry product from the Suffolk plant could have met the licensing requirements for movement outside the restricted area." All movements to and from the plant were still the subject of a continuing investigation, he added. Hungary's chief vet Lajos Bognar told Channel 4 earlier that meat had left the plant in Holton and arrived back at Bernard Matthews' Hungarian plant on either Wednesday or Thursday. "I can say that from the protection zone, from the UK, six trucks arrived from there last week, to Hungary, from the protection zone," Mr Bognar said. Channel 4 reported that the lorries had left the British plant for Hungary under a special licence issued to Bernard Matthews and arrived there four or five days ago. But it claims the decision to grant the licence would have been made before it was clear poultry products, rather than wild birds, were the likely source of the outbreak. Mr Miliband told BBC1's Sunday AM yesterday that there had "obviously been a lapse in bio-security" because the virus had got from Hungary to the UK and from the processing plant in Holton to sheds housing live turkeys. He said he would have been ready to impose a ban if vets told him it was necessary for public health, which he said they had not, adding that a ban would have invited continent-wide retaliation against UK farmers. Animal welfare minister Ben Bradshaw later made clear the company could face prosecution if it was shown to have broken animal health laws. Asked about the possibility that infected turkey had got into the food chain, food expert Joanna Blythman told GMTV: "I think we should be really worried. I think it is one thing for the Foods Standards Agency to well that is OK as long as you cook it properly, but that is really not acceptable is it? "I mean we should be able to buy poultry in this country at point of sale which is clean and wholesome. "And even before bird flu came along, we knew that problems like Campylobacter, salmonella, E. coli, major food pathogens were contaminating our chicken. "And last year 50 per cent of all British chickens were contaminated with drug-resistant strains of E. coli. Now we have got to add bird flu to the list." http://www.24dash.com/news/47/16406/index.htm
From: Jim Webster on 20 Feb 2007 09:53 "pearl" <tea(a)signguestbook.ie> wrote in message news:eresvl$k4u$1(a)reader01.news.esat.net... > "Jim Webster" <jim(a)websterpagebank.freeswerve.co.uk> wrote in message >> because confessing would prove you to be a hypocrite perhaps > > How so? > its a pity you cannot defend your own beliefs but must substitute attacking others instead ah well nevermind
From: Pete �(���)� on 20 Feb 2007 11:48 On Tue, 20 Feb 2007 14:53:30 -0000, "Jim Webster" <jim(a)websterpagebank.freeswerve.co.uk> wrote: > >"pearl" <tea(a)signguestbook.ie> wrote in message >news:eresvl$k4u$1(a)reader01.news.esat.net... >> "Jim Webster" <jim(a)websterpagebank.freeswerve.co.uk> wrote in message >>> because confessing would prove you to be a hypocrite perhaps >> >> How so? >> >its a pity you cannot defend your own beliefs but must substitute attacking >others instead Bully boy doesn't like it uppim perhaps? >ah well nevermind Getting a bit hot in the kitchen Jim? -- Disclaimer Pete has taken all reasonable care to ensure that pages published by him were accurate on the date of publication or last modification. Other pages which may be linked or which Pete may have published are in a personal capacity. Pete takes no responsibility for the consequences of error or for any loss or damage suffered by users of any of the information published on any of these pages, and such information does not form any basis of a contract with readers or users of it. It is in the nature of Usenet & Web sites, that much of the information is experimental or constantly changing, that information published may be for test purposes only, may be out of date, or may be the personal opinion of the author. Readers should verify information gained from the Web/Usenet with the appropriate authorities before relying on it. Should you no longer wish to read this material or content, please use your newsreaders kill filter.
From: pearl on 20 Feb 2007 19:05 "Pete <(.�.)>" <farmingfacts(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message news:ah9mt2h0i6ss09frop8prhahard47a0n7d(a)4ax.com... > On Tue, 20 Feb 2007 14:53:30 -0000, "Jim Webster" > <jim(a)websterpagebank.freeswerve.co.uk> wrote: > > > > >"pearl" <tea(a)signguestbook.ie> wrote in message > >news:eresvl$k4u$1(a)reader01.news.esat.net... > >> "Jim Webster" <jim(a)websterpagebank.freeswerve.co.uk> wrote in message > >>> because confessing would prove you to be a hypocrite perhaps > >> > >> How so? > >> > >its a pity you cannot defend your own beliefs but must substitute attacking > >others instead > > Bully boy doesn't like it uppim perhaps? 'Bullies project their inadequacies, shortcomings, behaviours etc on to other people to avoid facing up to their inadequacy and doing something about it (learning about oneself can be painful), and to distract and divert attention away from themselves and their inadequacies. Projection is achieved through blame, criticism and allegation; once you realise this, every criticism, allegation etc that the bully makes about their target is actually an admission or revelation about themselves. This knowledge can be used to perceive the bully's own misdemeanours; for instance, when the allegations are of financial or sexual impropriety, it is likely that the bully has committed these acts; when the bully makes an allegation of abuse (such allegations tend to be vague and non-specific), it is likely to be the bully who has committed the abuse. When the bully makes allegations of, say, "cowardice" or "negative attitude" it is the bully who is a coward or has a negative attitude. ....' http://www.bullyonline.org/workbully/serial.htm > >ah well nevermind > > Getting a bit hot in the kitchen Jim? Roasting! :)
From: Jim Webster on 21 Feb 2007 02:07
"pearl" <tea(a)signguestbook.ie> wrote in message news:erg2bf$2qc$1(a)reader01.news.esat.net... > "Pete <(.�.)>" <farmingfacts(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message > news:ah9mt2h0i6ss09frop8prhahard47a0n7d(a)4ax.com... >> On Tue, 20 Feb 2007 14:53:30 -0000, "Jim Webster" >> <jim(a)websterpagebank.freeswerve.co.uk> wrote: >> >> > >> >"pearl" <tea(a)signguestbook.ie> wrote in message >> >news:eresvl$k4u$1(a)reader01.news.esat.net... >> >> "Jim Webster" <jim(a)websterpagebank.freeswerve.co.uk> wrote in message >> >>> because confessing would prove you to be a hypocrite perhaps >> >> >> >> How so? >> >> >> >its a pity you cannot defend your own beliefs but must substitute >> >attacking >> >others instead >> >> Bully boy doesn't like it uppim perhaps? > > 'Bullies project their inadequacies, shortcomings, behaviours etc > on to other people to avoid facing up to their inadequacy and > doing something about it so you know your problem, deal with it |