From: surface9 on
I still have my very OLD Polar heart rate monitor, but the wrist unit
is starting to fail - it was very basic and only read out the heart
rate (beats per minute) in non-flashing big led numbers and it started
as soon as you wetted the sending unit and placed it snug against your
bare chest. No buttons, no confusing features - just a basic
continuous non-flashing readout of your heart rate.

I can't find anything like that anymore - not even at POLAR - they all
brag about "features, features, features" time-of-day, average this
and that, and who knows what all kinds of nonsense that just confuse
you when ALL you want to to quickly look at your wrist and see a
readout of your heart rate.

Last week I purshaced a Polar and everytime I look at it, it is either
telling me the time, or some stupid stopwatch, or who knows what, and,
I have to stop, punch it to go off, punch it again to start again, and
then wait a few seconds for it to finally read out my heart rate - by
the time I get to see my heart rate it has naturally slowed down
because of all the rigamorow I have to go through before I get to see
the number.

Then I contunue my workout and, anytime I look at my wrist to check it
again, it is no longer reading out my heartrate but giving me some
other stupid feature and I am back to having to turn it off and go
through that nonsense all over again. I emailed Polar and they just
ignored me.

DOES ANYONE make a basic no-nonsense wrist-chest heart rate monitor
anymore? Like the basic kind Polar USED TO MAKE??????

All I want is to wet the sender, strap it onto my chest, strap on the
wrist unit, hold it next to my chest for a few seconds, and then start
my workout and not have to do anything else but occassionally take a
quick glance at my wrist and see a big solid number (non-flashing)
that reflects my heart rate at that time. I know this is possible
becuase I bought this one less than 4 years ago but the wrist unit
quit working recently and I can't find one just like that anymore -
blast! Why do companies have to "improve" what are very good products
and just make a mess of things - why can't they keep on making the
basic things like that basic dedicated heart rate monitor?

This is very frustrating!

From: Joe Doe on
In article <1181520298.563784.172950(a)w5g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>,
surface9 <davsf(a)neto.com> wrote:


> DOES ANYONE make a basic no-nonsense wrist-chest heart rate monitor
> anymore? Like the basic kind Polar USED TO MAKE??????
>
Why do companies have to "improve" what are very good products
> and just make a mess of things - why can't they keep on making the
> basic things like that basic dedicated heart rate monitor?
>
> This is very frustrating!

Look for a Polar F1 or FS1 monitor.

http://www.amazon.com/F1-Heart-Rate-Monitor-Transmitter/dp/B0007YD9R0/ref
=pd_bbs_sr_5/104-2160556-4331958?ie=UTF8&s=hpc&qid=1181525387&sr=8-5


http://www.amazon.com/Polar-Heart-Rate-Monitor-Watch/dp/B000ASDGU8/ref=pd
_bbs_sr_1/104-2160556-4331958?ie=UTF8&s=sporting-goods&qid=1181525387&sr=
8-1


Roland
From: joeu2004 on
On Jun 10, 5:04 pm, surface9 <d...(a)neto.com> wrote:
> Last week I purshaced a Polar and everytime I look at it, it is either
> telling me the time, or some stupid stopwatch [...].
> I have to stop, punch it to go off, punch it again to start again, and
> then wait a few seconds for it to finally read out my heart rate
> [....]
> Then I contunue my workout and, anytime I look at my wrist to check
> it again, it is no longer reading out my heartrate but giving me some
> other stupid feature and I am back to having to turn it off and go
> through that nonsense all over again.

That would bother me, too. What model are you talking about?

I find it hard to believe that you cannot put it into continuous HRM
mode. That is a big selling point with Polar. It is emphasized on
its web site.

I have to replace my A1 soon because the seal has decayed. Even the
A1 requires that you turn it on to use it, and there is a 5-sec
delay. But once it is on, it stays on as long as the transmitter is
in range.

Even when the transmitter goes out of range, the A1 stays on. It
reports the HR as soon as the transmitter comes back in range. So I
suppose you could leave it on all the time. Not sure what that does
for the receiver battery; but at least that is easy to replace.

From: surface9 on
On Jun 10, 9:13 pm, joeu2004 <joeu2...(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Jun 10, 5:04 pm, surface9 <d...(a)neto.com> wrote:
>
> > Last week I purshaced a Polar and everytime I look at it, it is either
> > telling me the time, or some stupid stopwatch [...].
> > I have to stop, punch it to go off, punch it again to start again, and
> > then wait a few seconds for it to finally read out my heart rate
> > [....]
> > Then I contunue my workout and, anytime I look at my wrist to check
> > it again, it is no longer reading out my heartrate but giving me some
> > other stupid feature and I am back to having to turn it off and go
> > through that nonsense all over again.
>
> That would bother me, too. What model are you talking about?
>
> I find it hard to believe that you cannot put it into continuous HRM
> mode. That is a big selling point with Polar. It is emphasized on
> its web site.
>
> I have to replace my A1 soon because the seal has decayed. Even the
> A1 requires that you turn it on to use it, and there is a 5-sec
> delay. But once it is on, it stays on as long as the transmitter is
> in range.
>
> Even when the transmitter goes out of range, the A1 stays on. It
> reports the HR as soon as the transmitter comes back in range. So I
> suppose you could leave it on all the time. Not sure what that does
> for the receiver battery; but at least that is easy to replace.

My unit is the FS1 - the least "feature-rich" of the ones they had at
Walmart. I got it because it said on the box "continuous heart rate",
but, that is A LIE. When I finally get it to start reading out my
heart rate, it is flashing and I can't just glance at it and read my
heart rate - and, I don't know why, but, after a while (since I am
exercising and not watching it continuosly), it starts reading the
time or something else - could be the moving around of my arm or who
knows, but, this unit is worthless and a complete WASTE OF MONEY AND
TIME.
And Polar doesn't care to deal with an unsatisfied customer - typical
modern business jerks.

>From looking over the offerings on amazon (from the replies here), it
appears that NO ONE offers the basic model anymore - that is, I can
find not a single offering that consists SOLELY of a heart rate
monitor with NO BUTTONS, NO OPTIONS, and no timer, average this or
that, or anything else. The old one I have is the polar beat, I
think. If I can get a new battery for that, then that is what I would
like to do,

Why doesn't somebody make one like that anymore? Nuts!

From: joeu2004 on
On Jun 11, 6:56 am, surface9 <d...(a)neto.com> wrote:
> My unit is the FS1 - the least "feature-rich" of the ones they had at
> Walmart.

And the least "feature-rich" model that Polar offers. Sorry to hear
that.

> I got it because it said on the box "continuous heart rate",
> but, that is A LIE.

Before you start making accusation, perhaps you should try RTFM. I
found it online.

> When I finally get it to start reading out my heart rate, it is flashing

Sounds like it thinks you are exercising above or below your target
zone. Sigh, I do not see any way to disable that feature. However,
you might try following the instructions for setting your zone.
Perhaps you can set the zone so low (zero?) and so high (250?) that
you will never be outside the zone.

(Sigh, from the specs, it looks like the lowest and highest limits
that you can set are 30 and 199. Should be good enough.)

> after a while [...], it starts reading the
> time or something else - could be the moving around of my arm

According to the manual, in exercise mode, the display can be changed
when you bring the receiver ("watch") close to the center of the
transmitter (strap). With my A1, this requires that you hold the
receiver in that position for a few seconds -- which was a nuisance.
I wonder if they "improved" the FS1 so that the effect is instanteous
-- sigh, too instanteous.

Perhaps another explanation is interference from nearby Polar units or
other sources of EMI. But that is not a symptom of those problems
that is described in the manual.

> this unit is worthless and a complete WASTE OF MONEY

I agree, the user interface seems poor, especially if the HR display
can be changed as easily as it seems from your experience. That's too
bad.

> And Polar doesn't care to deal with an unsatisfied customer - typical
> modern business jerks.

First, what would you have them say or do? Sigh, it appears that they
have a poor product design. The most they could do is say "sorry".
Second, I would not care to deal with you either, if that is the
attitude that you display when you contact them.

You might be able to return the product to Walmart.

> From looking over the offerings on amazon (from the replies here), it
> appears that NO ONE offers the basic model anymore

Well, you should go to the __Polar__ web site (I use polarusa.com) to
see the full offering. But I think your conclusion is correct. Sigh.

> I can find not a single offering that consists SOLELY of a heart rate
> monitor with NO BUTTONS

Ah, yes, I remember that design now. That was the first Polar
receiver that I had 14 or more years ago. I cannot say when the no-
button design disappeared. But the A1 has one button. I believe I
bought that 3-4 years ago.

> The old one I have is the polar beat, I think.
> If I can get a new battery for that, then that is what I would
> like to do

I never had a problem replacing the receiver battery. Any credible
watch repairer should be able to do it.

Thanks for reporting your (bad) experience with the FS1.