From: Susan on
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Gen. Postings wrote:

> I'm in the Melbourne suburb of Northcote Victoria.
> The wilds of Westgarth.
> I am a denizen of Dennis.


My brother lives in Victoria. At least he did, not sure since he sold
his last house.

Susan
From: Hondos2 on
On Aug 8, 9:45�am, garyban...(a)comcast.net wrote:
> With an "insulin pump", the pump does not know how much sugar is in
> the blood, unless you do the "finger stick" test, and program the
> pump. �In order to prevent hypogylcemic (low blood sugar) reactions,
> this test must be performed as often as 10 times day. �This is called
> an "open loop" system, because the pump just runs constantly, at a
> rate set by the wearer.
>
> The"artifial pancreas" contains an insulin pump, AND a glucose sensor
> AND a microcomputer. �The microcomputer reads the sensor to see how
> much sugar is in the blood, then tells the insulin pump exaclty how
> much insulin to �send. �With the computer/sensor controlling the
> amount of insulin, this is called a "closed loop" system.
>
> Up until now, part of the problem has been a suitable, implantable
> glucose sensor. �Previous sensors could only be used one time -- like
> the finger stick meter inserts. �This new sensor is somehow "reusable"
> -- apparently self-cleaning. �It is inserted under the skin, with what
> I presume is a very simple surgical procedure. �But I've hear of a
> sensor being developed in Japan that is based on a needle.
>
> Until we can invent a device that will MAKE the insulin itself
> (instead of having to be refilled every day), this is as close as we
> can get to "artificial pancreas"


Hello,
Does anyone know the name of this type of pump or who makes it? My
child was diagnosed with type 1 six weeks ago. I'd love to have this
for him.
From: guys on
On Sun, 31 Aug 2008 11:26:38 -0700 (PDT), Hondos2(a)aol.com wrote:

>On Aug 8, 9:45?am, garyban...(a)comcast.net wrote:
>> With an "insulin pump", the pump does not know how much sugar is in
>> the blood, unless you do the "finger stick" test, and program the
>> pump. ?In order to prevent hypogylcemic (low blood sugar) reactions,
>> this test must be performed as often as 10 times day. ?This is called
>> an "open loop" system, because the pump just runs constantly, at a
>> rate set by the wearer.
>>
>> The"artifial pancreas" contains an insulin pump, AND a glucose sensor
>> AND a microcomputer. ?The microcomputer reads the sensor to see how
>> much sugar is in the blood, then tells the insulin pump exaclty how
>> much insulin to ?send. ?With the computer/sensor controlling the
>> amount of insulin, this is called a "closed loop" system.
>>
>> Up until now, part of the problem has been a suitable, implantable
>> glucose sensor. ?Previous sensors could only be used one time -- like
>> the finger stick meter inserts. ?This new sensor is somehow "reusable"
>> -- apparently self-cleaning. ?It is inserted under the skin, with what
>> I presume is a very simple surgical procedure. ?But I've hear of a
>> sensor being developed in Japan that is based on a needle.
>>
>> Until we can invent a device that will MAKE the insulin itself
>> (instead of having to be refilled every day), this is as close as we
>> can get to "artificial pancreas"
>
>
>Hello,
>Does anyone know the name of this type of pump or who makes it? My
>child was diagnosed with type 1 six weeks ago. I'd love to have this
>for him.

Mack or NIco seem to be current in this area.

My imoression is to go slow on items like this.

I would not consider it for anyone but an adult
with diabetic experience We have always
seen articles in areas of speculative new
devices. Most do not work out well.

I would look for an Endo with a good reputation
and try to learn the ropes. Learning takes much
time and multiple sooirces.

Some day we will have better devices.


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From: Tiger_Lily on
Hondos2(a)aol.com wrote:

>> The"artifial pancreas" contains an insulin pump, AND a glucose sensor
>> AND a microcomputer.

>> Until we can invent a device that will MAKE the insulin itself
>> (instead of having to be refilled every day), this is as close as we
>> can get to "artificial pancreas"
>
>
> Hello,
> Does anyone know the name of this type of pump or who makes it? My
> child was diagnosed with type 1 six weeks ago. I'd love to have this
> for him.

there is NO viable 'artifical pancreas' as such, in existance today

there has been much talk of this happening, in the last 9 or 10 years or
more, but nothing has come of it

they are making very smart pumps today, and WE still have the final say
on how much insulin the pump will deliver, and WE are the 'micro
computer' that guides the pump :)

--
kate
type 1 since 1987
www.diabetic-chat.org
www.diabetic-talk.org
http://www.diabetes-support.org.uk/newly%20diagnosed.html
From: Nico Kadel-Garcia on
Tiger_Lily wrote:
> Hondos2(a)aol.com wrote:
>
>>> The"artifial pancreas" contains an insulin pump, AND a glucose sensor
>>> AND a microcomputer.
>
>>> Until we can invent a device that will MAKE the insulin itself
>>> (instead of having to be refilled every day), this is as close as we
>>> can get to "artificial pancreas"
>>
>>
>> Hello,
>> Does anyone know the name of this type of pump or who makes it? My
>> child was diagnosed with type 1 six weeks ago. I'd love to have this
>> for him.
>
> there is NO viable 'artifical pancreas' as such, in existance today
>
> there has been much talk of this happening, in the last 9 or 10 years or
> more, but nothing has come of it

Try 40 years, minimum. The basic mechanical technologies were solved at least
25 years ago to my knowledge, the sensor is the problem. With good sensors,
you don't need fancy computers. It's a simple damped feedback loop like
physics and engineering students have been tuning since the invention of
feedback loops.