Arginine consumption and genital herpes
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From: alfred on 8 Jul 2008 20:27 Hi everyone, I thought I would post this question in case anyone has more information than I do. Right now I am taking a new multi vitamin called Ultra Vita Man, from Vitamin world. Its for men and a multi containing all kinds of good things. It's supposed to promote energy, because now that I am getting older I have been noticing a reduction in energy so I thought I'd give it a try. I noticed that there is 50 mg of L-Arginine Hydrochloride per daily dose. I've been taking it about a month with no noticible increase in energy as it promotes, but during the last week I have noted a much worse than usual outbreak! :( This outbreak seems to be worse than I have had in a long time. I'm wondering if there is any connection to the L-Arginine Hydrochloride or is that dose too small for it to have caused anything? Stress levels have been about the same and over all health same too. Recently though, I have consumed more peanuts and walnuts than I usually do, and I know these also contain a high concentration of L-Arginine, so I'm not sure. Any ideas on this? Al
From: M2slo2cht on 8 Jul 2008 22:26 The only thing I can suggest is try different foods, vitamins, Lysine, etc and keep track of what you're doing and when. In addition, keep track of any outbreaks, prodrome, etc. Over time you can figure out what triggers a reaction and what doesn't. People's reaction to trigger foods etc vary so widely, that's about the only way to figure things out for yourself. For instance, some people say L-Lysine helps control their outbreaks. But double blind studies show that L-Lysine has no effect. And still other people swear that L-Lysine *causes* their outbreaks. So how does an idividual decide what to do? Keep track and do your own study. It's the only way. Granted you can report your results here. It's of interest to other readers. But since everyone is so different, comparing individual notes isn't actually much help. At least that's been my experience. I don't mean to avoid your question but I wouldn't know how to answer it on an individual basis. M2 alfred writes: >Hi everyone, >I thought I would post this question in case anyone has more information >than I do. Right now I am taking a new multi vitamin called Ultra Vita Man, >from Vitamin world. Its for men and a multi containing all kinds of good >things. It's supposed to promote energy, because now that I am getting older >I have been noticing a reduction in energy so I thought I'd give it a try. I >noticed that there is 50 mg of L-Arginine Hydrochloride per daily dose. I've >been taking it about a month with no noticible increase in energy as it >promotes, but during the last week I have noted a much worse than usual >outbreak! :( > >This outbreak seems to be worse than I have had in a long time. I'm >wondering if there is any connection to the L-Arginine Hydrochloride or is >that dose too small for it to have caused anything? Stress levels have been >about the same and over all health same too. Recently though, I have >consumed more peanuts and walnuts than I usually do, and I know these also >contain a high concentration of L-Arginine, so I'm not sure. > >Any ideas on this? > >Al >
From: alfred on 8 Jul 2008 22:33 Recently though, I have > consumed more peanuts and walnuts than I usually do, and I know these also > contain a high concentration of L-Arginine, so I'm not sure. > Let me just clarify to the group in case anyone is not that familiar with L-Arginine. The amino acid L-Arginine, is one that promotes energy from what i read. It is high in certain foods such as meats, nuts and things like that. The food with the highest ratio of L-Arginine to L-Lysine (the opposite acting amino) is Walnuts and also Peanuts to some degree. So the big question is, can 50 mg of L-Arginine really increase the likelyhood of an outbreak that much? This is more something that is known in the herpes community, so not even that many doctors would have a clue about this.
From: MamaZ on 8 Jul 2008 23:16 Al, Over the years I've noticed a definite increase in the frequency of my outbreaks when I eat peanuts and/or chocolate (which, naturally, I love). I'd say that ANY additional L-Arginine (such as what you're taking in those vitamins) is likely causing your increased outbreaks. Also, I am one of those people that L-Lysine does not seem to help, in fact it sometimes causes me to break out as well (as M2 pointed out), especially if I take it for too long or at too high of a dose. Herpes is so strange, partly because it reacts differently in everyone. M2 is right about needing to watch what you eat and see what happens, it's just the only real way to determine what your personal triggers are. I know someone who breaks out when he eats bananas! Good luck, mama z "alfred" <tomboy83(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message news:ZrVck.27146$i55.26532(a)newsfe22.lga... > Recently though, I have >> consumed more peanuts and walnuts than I usually do, and I know these >> also contain a high concentration of L-Arginine, so I'm not sure. >> > > Let me just clarify to the group in case anyone is not that familiar with > L-Arginine. The amino acid L-Arginine, is one that promotes energy from > what i read. It is high in certain foods such as meats, nuts and things > like that. The food with the highest ratio of L-Arginine to L-Lysine (the > opposite acting amino) is Walnuts and also Peanuts to some degree. So the > big question is, can 50 mg of L-Arginine really increase the likelyhood of > an outbreak that much? This is more something that is known in the herpes > community, so not even that many doctors would have a clue about this. > > >
From: M2slo2cht on 9 Jul 2008 05:25
alfred writes: >The amino acid L-Arginine, is one that promotes energy L-Argininge has been the universal whipping boy in the Herpes community since I've been researching this stuff. You seldom see anyone singing its praises in a Herp group. To see that, you need to check out some Heart Disease Support groups. Seems L-Arginine performs a number of important functions in that area and you see its benefit touted there all the time. In fact, L-Arginine supplements are commonly suggested for good heart health. >So the >big question is, can 50 mg of L-Arginine really increase the likelyhood of >an outbreak that much? It's an individual thing. It will definitely increase the liklihood for some individuals and definitely have no effect whatsoever on others. It may even have a positive effect in others -shrug- I don't know. But I DO know it has a positive effect on heart health so I don't casually recommend cutting back on it like I used to. I wish this stuff could be simple but it's not. M2 |