From: Mark Probert on
On Oct 9, 3:48 pm, "trigonometry1...(a)gmail.com |"
<trigonometry1...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> On Oct 9, 12:28 pm, Mark Thorson <nos...(a)sonic.net> wrote:
>
> > Excellent article in New England Journal of Medicine
> > about contamination in the severly underregulated
> > dietary supplements business.  Many products contain
> > dangerous, unapproved drugs, and yet the public is
> > largely unaware how bad the situation is.  A majority
> > of the public and even a third of medical students
> > wrongly believe that supplements have to be approved
> > by a government agency.
>
> >http://healthcarereform.nejm.org/?p=2017&query=home
>
> > The dietary supplement industry is a dirty business,
> > sorely in need of reform.
>
> Ha unapproved drugs they call them. I'll bet
> they include alot of perfectly safe ingredients
> in their list of "unapproved drugs,"
> I wouldn't trust most proposed reforms other than
> perhaps a bit more funding and monitoring to prevent
> pharma drugs and toxics being slipped in by
> crooks.

I would like to see:

1. Mandatory reporting of all adverse events, lawsuits, etc.

2. Complete disclosure of all ingredients, and banning the term
"Proprietary bland" etc.

3. Requirement that there be some standard of efficacy.

For starters.

From: Mark Probert on
On Oct 9, 4:11 pm, "trigonometry1...(a)gmail.com |"
<trigonometry1...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> On Oct 9, 1:01 pm, catherine hoffman <choffman0...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Oct 9, 12:28 pm, Mark Thorson <nos...(a)sonic.net> wrote:
>
> > > Excellent article in New England Journal of Medicine
> > > about contamination in the severly underregulated
> > > dietary supplements business.  Many products contain
> > > dangerous, unapproved drugs, and yet the public is
> > > largely unaware how bad the situation is.  A majority
> > > of the public and even a third of medical students
> > > wrongly believe that supplements have to be approved
> > > by a government agency.
>
> > >http://healthcarereform.nejm.org/?p=2017&query=home
>
> > > The dietary supplement industry is a dirty business,
> > > sorely in need of reform.
>
> > WoW!,
> > I know quite a bit about the FDA, but I didn't know that they did not
> > regulate the supplements. Is that also true for MLM companies?
>
> Its not they don't have enough authority rather they choose
> not to enforce it.

Incorrect. They do not have enough authority. DSHEA.

From: Happy Oyster on
On Fri, 9 Oct 2009 13:01:08 -0700 (PDT), catherine hoffman
<choffman0930(a)gmail.com> wrote:

>I know quite a bit about the FDA, but I didn't know that they did not
>regulate the supplements. Is that also true for MLM companies?

MLM is a crime.
--
Bettina Raddatz:
"Treu & Glauben, Hinter den Kulissen eines Wirtschaftsskandals"

http://www.ariplex.com/ama/ama_treu.htm
From: PeterB on
On Oct 9, 4:29 pm, Mark Probert <mark.prob...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> On Oct 9, 3:48 pm, "trigonometry1...(a)gmail.com |"
>
>
>
> <trigonometry1...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Oct 9, 12:28 pm, Mark Thorson <nos...(a)sonic.net> wrote:
>
> > > Excellent article in New England Journal of Medicine
> > > about contamination in the severly underregulated
> > > dietary supplements business.  Many products contain
> > > dangerous, unapproved drugs, and yet the public is
> > > largely unaware how bad the situation is.  A majority
> > > of the public and even a third of medical students
> > > wrongly believe that supplements have to be approved
> > > by a government agency.
>
> > >http://healthcarereform.nejm.org/?p=2017&query=home
>
> > > The dietary supplement industry is a dirty business,
> > > sorely in need of reform.
>
> > Ha unapproved drugs they call them. I'll bet
> > they include alot of perfectly safe ingredients
> > in their list of "unapproved drugs,"
> > I wouldn't trust most proposed reforms other than
> > perhaps a bit more funding and monitoring to prevent
> > pharma drugs and toxics being slipped in by
> > crooks.
>
> I would like to see:
>
> 1. Mandatory reporting of all adverse events, lawsuits, etc.
>
> 2. Complete disclosure of all ingredients, and banning the term
> "Proprietary bland" etc.
>
> 3. Requirement that there be some standard of efficacy.
>
> For starters.

There is substantial "GMP" compliance by most of the reputable
manufacturers, and many provide certified assays on request. Since a
large percentage of these products are made using pharmaceutically-
made materials, some of this problem rests with the drug makers.
From: Happy Oyster on
On Fri, 9 Oct 2009 13:55:14 -0700 (PDT), PeterB <pkm(a)mytrashmail.com> wrote:

>On Oct 9, 4:29�pm, Mark Probert <mark.prob...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Oct 9, 3:48�pm, "trigonometry1...(a)gmail.com |"
>>
>>
>>
>> <trigonometry1...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>> > On Oct 9, 12:28�pm, Mark Thorson <nos...(a)sonic.net> wrote:
>>
>> > > Excellent article in New England Journal of Medicine
>> > > about contamination in the severly underregulated
>> > > dietary supplements business. �Many products contain
>> > > dangerous, unapproved drugs, and yet the public is
>> > > largely unaware how bad the situation is. �A majority
>> > > of the public and even a third of medical students
>> > > wrongly believe that supplements have to be approved
>> > > by a government agency.
>>
>> > >http://healthcarereform.nejm.org/?p=2017&query=home
>>
>> > > The dietary supplement industry is a dirty business,
>> > > sorely in need of reform.
>>
>> > Ha unapproved drugs they call them. I'll bet
>> > they include alot of perfectly safe ingredients
>> > in their list of "unapproved drugs,"
>> > I wouldn't trust most proposed reforms other than
>> > perhaps a bit more funding and monitoring to prevent
>> > pharma drugs and toxics being slipped in by
>> > crooks.
>>
>> I would like to see:
>>
>> 1. Mandatory reporting of all adverse events, lawsuits, etc.
>>
>> 2. Complete disclosure of all ingredients, and banning the term
>> "Proprietary bland" etc.
>>
>> 3. Requirement that there be some standard of efficacy.
>>
>> For starters.
>
>There is substantial "GMP" compliance by most of the reputable
>manufacturers,

That is a rotten lie. GMP does neither cover the ingredients nor the efficacy.
GMP is only the WAY of production, and nothing more.

--
Bettina Raddatz:
"Treu & Glauben, Hinter den Kulissen eines Wirtschaftsskandals"

http://www.ariplex.com/ama/ama_treu.htm
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