4 million US children drugged up with stimulants which never help, only harm.
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From: Fred on 22 Oct 2006 01:19 Raving Beauty wrote: > http://thechronicleherald.ca/Opinion/535119.html > > ADHD: Pills may not be best solution > > By JOHN D. GRANT > > "Currently, there are more than 350,000 Canadian children (and over > four million Americans) between five and 19 receiving prescriptions for > psychostimulant medication in one form or another to treat attention > deficit disorder +/- hyperactivity. To justify such widespread use of > these controlled medications (amphetamines), there should be strong > evidence that these medicines truly benefit recipients, right? > > Well, actually, no long-term studies have ever demonstrated these drugs > to be effective in helping individuals adapt or adjust to the pressures > and demands of school or society. Indeed, available studies provide > little evidence that stimulants improve academic performance." So Loony Linda, this seems to be one of your aliases. Have you noticed how, with all your stupid crossposts, you have brought a bunch of rogue nut cases like yourself to this NG. This site used to be a place where you could get advice and support. Now a bunch of rogues have taken over and the good people stay away. How many aliases do you have?
From: Jodi on 22 Oct 2006 02:30 "Fred" <fenisz(a)aol.com> wrote in message news:1161494357.745257.235250(a)f16g2000cwb.googlegroups.com... > Raving Beauty wrote: > So Loony Linda, this seems to be one of your aliases. I like this nym the best though. It makes me laugh everytime i see it. :)
From: Sandy L on 22 Oct 2006 08:30 "Fred" <fenisz(a)aol.com> wrote in message news:1161494357.745257.235250(a)f16g2000cwb.googlegroups.com... > > Raving Beauty wrote: >> http://thechronicleherald.ca/Opinion/535119.html >> >> ADHD: Pills may not be best solution >> >> By JOHN D. GRANT >> >> "Currently, there are more than 350,000 Canadian children (and over >> four million Americans) between five and 19 receiving prescriptions for >> psychostimulant medication in one form or another to treat attention >> deficit disorder +/- hyperactivity. To justify such widespread use of >> these controlled medications (amphetamines), there should be strong >> evidence that these medicines truly benefit recipients, right? >> >> Well, actually, no long-term studies have ever demonstrated these drugs >> to be effective in helping individuals adapt or adjust to the pressures >> and demands of school or society. Indeed, available studies provide >> little evidence that stimulants improve academic performance." > > So Loony Linda, this seems to be one of your aliases. Have you noticed > how, with all your stupid crossposts, you have brought a bunch of rogue > nut cases like yourself to this NG. This site used to be a place where > you could get advice and support. Now a bunch of rogues have taken > over and the good people stay away. How many aliases do you have? > These off-topic "contributions" to AST bring to mind a question from a few years back. Do those who post frequently to long and contentious threads achieve thereby a flame wargasm? And if so, does the high frequency of posting indicate that it takes a lot of effort to attain a flame wargasm (i.e., they are relatively inwargasmic), or that they attain a flame wargasm virtually every time (i.e., they are multiwargasmic)? B. F. Skinner found that pigeons in a box with a lever that would provide a bit of grain when a pigeon pecked it would get the highest rate of response when the reward was offered on a variable ratio reinforcment scheme with a high ratio. That is the pigeon had to peck many times, on average, to get a kernel of grain, but sometimes the grain would follow soon after the previous one and some times it would tacke hundreds of pecks. The high frequency of OT posts thus suggests that the posters are more likely to be inwargasmic, but an alternate model, cocaine use, suggests that is not a certain conclusion. Are alternative explanations available? Sandy L
From: Fred on 22 Oct 2006 11:54 On Oct 22, 6:30 am, "Sandy L" <hlm...(a)mindspring.com> wrote: > "Fred" <fen...(a)aol.com> wrote in messagenews:1161494357.745257.235250(a)f16g2000cwb.googlegroups.com... > > > > > > > Raving Beauty wrote: > >>http://thechronicleherald.ca/Opinion/535119.html > > >> ADHD: Pills may not be best solution > > >> By JOHN D. GRANT > > >> "Currently, there are more than 350,000 Canadian children (and over > >> four million Americans) between five and 19 receiving prescriptions for > >> psychostimulant medication in one form or another to treat attention > >> deficit disorder +/- hyperactivity. To justify such widespread use of > >> these controlled medications (amphetamines), there should be strong > >> evidence that these medicines truly benefit recipients, right? > > >> Well, actually, no long-term studies have ever demonstrated these drugs > >> to be effective in helping individuals adapt or adjust to the pressures > >> and demands of school or society. Indeed, available studies provide > >> little evidence that stimulants improve academic performance." > > > So Loony Linda, this seems to be one of your aliases. Have you noticed > > how, with all your stupid crossposts, you have brought a bunch of rogue > > nut cases like yourself to this NG. This site used to be a place where > > you could get advice and support. Now a bunch of rogues have taken > > over and the good people stay away. How many aliases do you have?These off-topic "contributions" to AST bring to mind a question from a few > years back. > Do those who post frequently to long and contentious threads achieve thereby > a flame wargasm? And if so, does the high frequency of posting indicate that > it takes a lot of effort to attain a flame wargasm (i.e., they are > relatively inwargasmic), or that they attain a flame wargasm virtually every > time (i.e., they are multiwargasmic)? > > B. F. Skinner found that pigeons in a box with a lever that would provide a > bit of grain when a pigeon pecked it would get the highest rate of response > when the reward was offered on a variable ratio reinforcment scheme with a > high ratio. That is the pigeon had to peck many times, on average, to get a > kernel of grain, but sometimes the grain would follow soon after the > previous one and some times it would tacke hundreds of pecks. The high > frequency of OT posts thus suggests that the posters are more likely to be > inwargasmic, but an alternate model, cocaine use, suggests that is not a > certain conclusion. > > Are alternative explanations available? > > Sandy L- Hide quoted text -- Show quoted text - It is sad. This used to be a place where people with TS or parents could come and get information, advice, and support. Loony Linda has driven everyone away and brought in a bunch of nuts that use this site as their verbal battleground. I have some problems with my tourette and I can't come to this site and share my problems because some nut case will go into the archives and bring up stuff that happened 4 years ago. The only way that we can have a site that works is to go to the monitored site to manually remove the undesirables that have no business posting on AST.
From: Jo on 22 Oct 2006 13:15
"Sandy L" <hlmssl(a)mindspring.com> wrote in message news:kvJ_g.13316$Y24.6987(a)newsread4.news.pas.earthlink.net... > "Fred" <fenisz(a)aol.com> wrote in message > news:1161494357.745257.235250(a)f16g2000cwb.googlegroups.com... >> >> Raving Beauty wrote: >>> http://thechronicleherald.ca/Opinion/535119.html >>> >>> ADHD: Pills may not be best solution >>> >>> By JOHN D. GRANT >>> >>> "Currently, there are more than 350,000 Canadian children (and over >>> four million Americans) between five and 19 receiving prescriptions for >>> psychostimulant medication in one form or another to treat attention >>> deficit disorder +/- hyperactivity. To justify such widespread use of >>> these controlled medications (amphetamines), there should be strong >>> evidence that these medicines truly benefit recipients, right? >>> >>> Well, actually, no long-term studies have ever demonstrated these drugs >>> to be effective in helping individuals adapt or adjust to the pressures >>> and demands of school or society. Indeed, available studies provide >>> little evidence that stimulants improve academic performance." >> >> So Loony Linda, this seems to be one of your aliases. Have you noticed >> how, with all your stupid crossposts, you have brought a bunch of rogue >> nut cases like yourself to this NG. This site used to be a place where >> you could get advice and support. Now a bunch of rogues have taken >> over and the good people stay away. How many aliases do you have? >> > These off-topic "contributions" to AST bring to mind a question from a few > years back. > Do those who post frequently to long and contentious threads achieve > thereby a flame wargasm? And if so, does the high frequency of posting > indicate that it takes a lot of effort to attain a flame wargasm (i.e., > they are relatively inwargasmic), or that they attain a flame wargasm > virtually every time (i.e., they are multiwargasmic)? > > B. F. Skinner found that pigeons in a box with a lever that would provide > a bit of grain when a pigeon pecked it would get the highest rate of > response when the reward was offered on a variable ratio reinforcment > scheme with a high ratio. That is the pigeon had to peck many times, on > average, to get a kernel of grain, but sometimes the grain would follow > soon after the previous one and some times it would tacke hundreds of > pecks. The high frequency of OT posts thus suggests that the posters are > more likely to be inwargasmic, but an alternate model, cocaine use, > suggests that is not a certain conclusion. > > Are alternative explanations available? > > Sandy L Yes, but I'll refrain myself from speculating.... :) Jo > |