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From: oralhealth on 25 Jul 2008 16:47
On Jul 24, 11:26 pm, Steven Fawks <tuthjoc...(a)myturbonet.com> wrote:
> If those are the 'causes' what do you think is the solution?
>
>
>
> > (1) OCCLUSION....MEANING PTS HAVING GROUP FUNCTION OR BALANCING SIDE
> > FUNCTION

Treatment: put patient into anterior guidance


> > (2) FIBROYMAGLIA

Treatment: send to physician who usually uses drugs---usually low
dose Elavil.
>
> > (3) JOINT PROBLEM

Treatment: rest. then rest, then send them to other providers.

The question is what are the numbers of who has what. Joint problems
are fewer than fibromyaglia. Occlusion problems are by far the
greater number.

I saw a patient this week, in her early forties, who told me they were
going to do TMJ surgery about 10 years ago, but she couldn't afford
it. She changed her occupation from answering the phone at blue cross
blue shield to medical coding. She has a small lower jaw.
And also, another patient I saw this week, age 29, has TMJ, with a
lower jaw, and she lives with it. She has the popping and a small
lower jaw.







From: The Webby on 25 Jul 2008 17:09
In article
<344a8d5a-ee09-42eb-8910-e8e3e7663c1c(a)b1g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>,
oralhealth(a)comcast.net wrote:

> On Jul 24, 11:26 pm, Steven Fawks <tuthjoc...(a)myturbonet.com> wrote:
> > If those are the 'causes' what do you think is the solution?
> >
> >
> >
> > > (1) OCCLUSION....MEANING PTS HAVING GROUP FUNCTION OR BALANCING SIDE
> > > FUNCTION
>
> Treatment: put patient into anterior guidance
>
>
> > > (2) FIBROYMAGLIA
>
> Treatment: send to physician who usually uses drugs---usually low
> dose Elavil.
> >
> > > (3) JOINT PROBLEM
>
> Treatment: rest. then rest, then send them to other providers.
>
> The question is what are the numbers of who has what. Joint problems
> are fewer than fibromyaglia. Occlusion problems are by far the
> greater number.
>
> I saw a patient this week, in her early forties, who told me they were
> going to do TMJ surgery about 10 years ago, but she couldn't afford
> it. She changed her occupation from answering the phone at blue cross
> blue shield to medical coding. She has a small lower jaw.
> And also, another patient I saw this week, age 29, has TMJ, with a
> lower jaw, and she lives with it. She has the popping and a small
> lower jaw.

What did the occupational change have to do with anything? Chances are,
she did *not* need surgery on her TMJ/s in the first place. "Need" is a
funny "thing". Personally, I'd be very interested in knowing the name
of the "TMJ surgery" that she was told she needed about ten years ago
(making it around 1997-1999).

And the 29 yr old who "has TMJ" ... what is her real diagnosis?

Webby
From: Bill on 25 Jul 2008 21:43
On Jul 25, 2:09 pm, The Webby <tmjiatroepide...(a)cox.net> wrote:
> In article
> <344a8d5a-ee09-42eb-8910-e8e3e7663...(a)b1g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>,
>
>
>
>
>
>  oralhea...(a)comcast.net wrote:
> > On Jul 24, 11:26 pm, Steven Fawks <tuthjoc...(a)myturbonet.com> wrote:
> > > If those are the 'causes' what do you think is the solution?
>
> > > > (1) OCCLUSION....MEANING PTS HAVING GROUP FUNCTION OR BALANCING SIDE
> > > > FUNCTION
>
> > Treatment:  put patient into anterior guidance
>
> > > > (2) FIBROYMAGLIA
>
> > Treatment:  send to physician who usually uses drugs---usually low
> > dose Elavil.
>
> > > > (3) JOINT PROBLEM
>
> > Treatment:  rest. then rest, then  send them to other providers.
>
> > The question is what are the numbers of who has what.   Joint problems
> > are fewer than fibromyaglia.   Occlusion problems are  by far the
> > greater number.
>
> > I saw a patient this week, in her early forties, who told me they were
> > going to do TMJ surgery about 10 years ago, but she couldn't afford
> > it.  She changed her occupation from answering the phone at blue cross
> > blue shield to medical coding.   She has a small lower jaw.
> > And also, another patient I saw this week, age 29, has TMJ, with a
> > lower jaw, and she lives with it.   She has the popping and a small
> > lower jaw.
>
> What did the occupational change have to do with anything?  Chances are,
> she did *not* need surgery on her TMJ/s in the first place.  "Need" is a
> funny "thing".  Personally, I'd be very interested in knowing the name
> of the "TMJ surgery" that she was told she needed about ten years ago
> (making it around 1997-1999).  
>
> And the 29 yr old who "has TMJ" ... what is her real diagnosis?
>
> Webby-


Sheesh, Webby, don't make it so tough on this guy by asking reasonable
questions. :-)

- dentaldoc
From: Amatus Cremona on 26 Jul 2008 08:09
This guy is scary

<oralhealth(a)comcast.net> wrote in message
news:344a8d5a-ee09-42eb-8910-e8e3e7663c1c(a)b1g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
> On Jul 24, 11:26 pm, Steven Fawks <tuthjoc...(a)myturbonet.com> wrote:
>> If those are the 'causes' what do you think is the solution?
>>
>>
>>
>> > (1) OCCLUSION....MEANING PTS HAVING GROUP FUNCTION OR BALANCING SIDE
>> > FUNCTION
>
> Treatment: put patient into anterior guidance
>
>
>> > (2) FIBROYMAGLIA
>
> Treatment: send to physician who usually uses drugs---usually low
> dose Elavil.
>>
>> > (3) JOINT PROBLEM
>
> Treatment: rest. then rest, then send them to other providers.
>
> The question is what are the numbers of who has what. Joint problems
> are fewer than fibromyaglia. Occlusion problems are by far the
> greater number.
>
> I saw a patient this week, in her early forties, who told me they were
> going to do TMJ surgery about 10 years ago, but she couldn't afford
> it. She changed her occupation from answering the phone at blue cross
> blue shield to medical coding. She has a small lower jaw.
> And also, another patient I saw this week, age 29, has TMJ, with a
> lower jaw, and she lives with it. She has the popping and a small
> lower jaw.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>


From: The Webby on 26 Jul 2008 13:26
In article
<ee21e756-1078-47b1-bff4-83a073c90fa8(a)f63g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>,
Bill <dentaldoc(a)hotmail.com> wrote:

> On Jul 25, 2:09�pm, The Webby <tmjiatroepide...(a)cox.net> wrote:
> > In article
> > <344a8d5a-ee09-42eb-8910-e8e3e7663...(a)b1g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>,
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > �oralhea...(a)comcast.net wrote:
> > > On Jul 24, 11:26 pm, Steven Fawks <tuthjoc...(a)myturbonet.com> wrote:
> > > > If those are the 'causes' what do you think is the solution?
> >
> > > > > (1) OCCLUSION....MEANING PTS HAVING GROUP FUNCTION OR BALANCING SIDE
> > > > > FUNCTION
> >
> > > Treatment: �put patient into anterior guidance
> >
> > > > > (2) FIBROYMAGLIA
> >
> > > Treatment: �send to physician who usually uses drugs---usually low
> > > dose Elavil.
> >
> > > > > (3) JOINT PROBLEM
> >
> > > Treatment: �rest. then rest, then �send them to other providers.
> >
> > > The question is what are the numbers of who has what. � Joint problems
> > > are fewer than fibromyaglia. � Occlusion problems are �by far the
> > > greater number.
> >
> > > I saw a patient this week, in her early forties, who told me they were
> > > going to do TMJ surgery about 10 years ago, but she couldn't afford
> > > it. �She changed her occupation from answering the phone at blue cross
> > > blue shield to medical coding. � She has a small lower jaw.
> > > And also, another patient I saw this week, age 29, has TMJ, with a
> > > lower jaw, and she lives with it. � She has the popping and a small
> > > lower jaw.
> >
> > What did the occupational change have to do with anything? �Chances are,
> > she did *not* need surgery on her TMJ/s in the first place. �"Need" is a
> > funny "thing". �Personally, I'd be very interested in knowing the name
> > of the "TMJ surgery" that she was told she needed about ten years ago
> > (making it around 1997-1999). �
> >
> > And the 29 yr old who "has TMJ" ... what is her real diagnosis?
> >
> > Webby-
>
>
> Sheesh, Webby, don't make it so tough on this guy by asking reasonable
> questions. :-)
>
> - dentaldoc

You know, I can't figure out whether he *believes* this stuff or because
it pays to "believe" this stuff, he "believes". I'm trying to be
diplomatic but that isn't easy when AC is calling out "Danger Will
Robinson" and others such as yourself are raising red flags.

I coined a term more than a decade ago and it seems to fully apply to
this situation. "TMJism." Maybe we should toss the term around a bit.
Hmmm.

Webby
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