2008 JDRF Walk in Sacramento [Diabetes]

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From: CindyB on 6 Oct 2008 00:31

Hi all,
I wrote a little something about the walk today and posted a picture.
I hope they find a way to help anyone with diabetes. :)
Cindy
www.adayinthelifeofcindy.blogspot.com

From: Robert Miles on 6 Oct 2008 00:55

"CindyB" <ski4cindy(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Hi all,
> I wrote a little something about the walk today and posted a picture.
> I hope they find a way to help anyone with diabetes. :)
> Cindy
> www.adayinthelifeofcindy.blogspot.com
..
You might want to consider some of the distributed computing
projects that look like they may eventually help diabetes
researchers. I found these, and set my computer to participate
in both:

http://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/index.jsp

http://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/

I've found another one trying to find causes for diabetes, but it's
still in beta test so I don't consider it ready for my only usable
computer to participate in, or to suggest to people who don't
have a spare computer with nothing important on it.

From: DonnaB shallotpeel on 6 Oct 2008 03:52

On Sun, 5 Oct 2008 23:55:18 -0500, in
<3OgGk.44856$Ep1.22668(a)bignews2.bellsouth.net> "Robert Miles"
<robertmiles(a)bellsouthNOSPAM.net> wrote:

>You might want to consider some of the distributed computing
>projects that look like they may eventually help diabetes
>researchers. I found these, and set my computer to participate
>in both:
>
>http://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/index.jsp
>
>http://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/
>
>I've found another one trying to find causes for diabetes, but it's
>still in beta test so I don't consider it ready for my only usable
>computer to participate in, or to suggest to people who don't
>have a spare computer with nothing important on it.

What kind of a potential impact does this have on users who have ISPs that are
beginning to define 'use of too much bandwidth'?

And, what is actually required? You've mentioned these a few times now. If
you've described how they work, I've missed it. I know the theory behind it,
but not the practical details.

--
DonnaB shallotpeel : ^> USA <*>
06-07-06 Diagnosis T2 HbA1c 8.1, D&E & Metformin 500mg
Current ................... HbA1c 5.8 Byetta 5x2 begun 08-01-08

From: GysdeJongh on 6 Oct 2008 05:39

From: Robert Miles on 6 Oct 2008 06:16

"DonnaB shallotpeel" <shallotpeel(a)comcast.net> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 5 Oct 2008 23:55:18 -0500, in
> <3OgGk.44856$Ep1.22668(a)bignews2.bellsouth.net> "Robert Miles"
> <robertmiles(a)bellsouthNOSPAM.net> wrote:
>
>>You might want to consider some of the distributed computing
>>projects that look like they may eventually help diabetes
>>researchers. I found these, and set my computer to participate
>>in both:
>>
>>http://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/index.jsp
>>
>>http://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/
>>
>>I've found another one trying to find causes for diabetes, but it's
>>still in beta test so I don't consider it ready for my only usable
>>computer to participate in, or to suggest to people who don't
>>have a spare computer with nothing important on it.
>
> What kind of a potential impact does this have on users who have ISPs that
> are
> beginning to define 'use of too much bandwidth'?
>
For me, it's only a small fraction of the bandwidth I use. However, I have
a
high speed DSL connection. I haven't found such a site that looks low
enough
in bandwidth to work well over one of the modems that blocks the use of
your phone line, even the 56KB variety.
..
> And, what is actually required? You've mentioned these a few times now. If
> you've described how they work, I've missed it. I know the theory behind
> it,
> but not the practical details.
>
> --
> DonnaB shallotpeel : ^> USA <*>
..
You first download the main BOINC software, which only needs to be
downloaded again to that machine when a new version of it is ready to
use. I've used version 5.10.45 ever since I started this in April. It
comes in a few varieties, one for most 32-bit Windows machines,
one for 64-bit Windows machines, one for most Mac machines, and
a 32-bit and a 64-bit variety for many Unix machines, such as those
running Linux. You may need to buy more RAM memory for your
machine, depending on how many cores your CPU has, which
projects you intend to help, and how much RAM you already have.
I have a Windows Vista machine with two CPU cores which came
with 1 GB of RAM, and found that while running BOINC, it runs
better with more, so I paid about US $50 to increase that to the
2 GB maximum that my machine can handle. The diabetes-related
project still in beta test requires about 750 MB per core to run well,
so I should have enough to switch to that project when it leaves
beta test. Vista requires close to 500 MB itself to run well, so by
then I might not be able to run that project well on both CPU cores
at once. The amount of disk space needed varies, but I'm currently
using 260 MB for BOINC and all the associated files.

The BOINC program decides when it's time to download workunits
from the projects, when to download any programs specific to those
projects, and runs those workunits at a lower priority than programs
you start, so you should barely notice any effect on most programs
you start, with the right settings and enough memory to keep both
the programs you start and the ones BOINC starts in memory at
once. A few programs you start, though, need the whole machine
to run without interference, such as antivirus programs, antispyware
programs, and disk backups, so you need to suspend BOINC
when running these. The workunits typically run for a few hours,
then BOINC uploads the results back to the projects. If you only
have a high speed internet connection at certain times of the day,
you can tell BOINC to keep a queue of workunits big enough
to keep it busy for a time you set, and wait until the connection
is available again to upload the results.

Many of the websites for the projects have a section on system
requirements, which gives more details on what those projects
require.

This one has such a section, but it takes a while to find. You
can read most of the website before deciding whether to let
your computer participate there.

http://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/index.jsp

This one puts a link to the system requirements page on their
main page:

http://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/rah_requirements.php

This one is probably too new to have created a system
requirements page yet, but doesn't seem to require more
than the two above:

http://cels-at-home-dev.dyndns.org/cels/

Those are the three I've found that look the most likely
to eventually help with diabetes among the ones I've
found that have completed beta test, so I've told my
computer to participate in all three. I'll adjust the shares
of my PC each one gets when I find BOINC projects
more specific to diabetes and past beta test, and add
those projects.

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