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From: MrUsaMike on 26 Jul 2008 03:43 Hello Fellow Gerd Members & Dr. Howard: For those of you that are considering having the Nissen surgery, I saw go for it. I couldnt believe how misareble I was until i had the surgery. Gerd is a hedious illness and I dont wish it on anyone. The qulaity of life improvement is huge. I am concearned about what happens after 7 years...and the worst case scenario that I have to have the surgrey again...Anyway positive thoughts and take care...
From: Chris Baxter on 26 Jul 2008 12:38 "MrUsaMike" <mrusamike(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message news:82bd8104-a688-4535-a754-b606b55b1a9f(a)z26g2000pre.googlegroups.com... > Hello Fellow Gerd Members & Dr. Howard: > > For those of you that are considering having the Nissen surgery, I saw > go for it. I couldnt believe how misareble I was until i had the > surgery. Gerd is a hedious illness and I dont wish it on anyone. The > qulaity of life improvement is huge. I am concearned about what > happens after 7 years...and the worst case scenario that I have to > have the surgrey again...Anyway positive thoughts and take care... Mike, it's really good to hear that you are doing well and that you are glad you had the surgery. Are you able to lift weights as before without damaging it? Chris
From: Bob Noble on 29 Jul 2008 02:22 Hi Chris, I hadn't heard we're not supposed to lift weights. However, I sometimes run a bulldozer in the forest, bouncing around, sometimes having to left heavy logs off the machine, doing all kinds of heavy lifting stuff. I also cut down six cords of three foot diameter trees a year. Cut down the trees, cutup the wood and split with a hand mall and move and stack the wood several times. Do a lot of other hard work, like digging and moving dirt and rock around the yard with a wheel barrel, sometimes over twenty five wheel barrels a day. Let's see, what else? I kayak the river almost everyday from three to five hours. Also have to unload and load my kayak on the car each time, about fifty pounds. I'm sixty one and for some reason that seems to impress a lot of people watching, when I lift it up and throw it on top of the car. Anyway, it might depend more on the individual, or how good the doc did the fundo? I also agree that having the fundo was the best thing I've done. Not having bad gerd is just great, at least, so far. -- Bob Noble http://www.sonic.net/bnoble "Chris Baxter" <cgbaxter(a)cableone.net> wrote in message news:cqIik.9941$cg.1119(a)fe085.usenetserver.com... > > "MrUsaMike" <mrusamike(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:82bd8104-a688-4535-a754-b606b55b1a9f(a)z26g2000pre.googlegroups.com... >> Hello Fellow Gerd Members & Dr. Howard: >> >> For those of you that are considering having the Nissen surgery, I saw >> go for it. I couldnt believe how misareble I was until i had the >> surgery. Gerd is a hedious illness and I dont wish it on anyone. The >> qulaity of life improvement is huge. I am concearned about what >> happens after 7 years...and the worst case scenario that I have to >> have the surgrey again...Anyway positive thoughts and take care... > > Mike, it's really good to hear that you are doing well and that you are > glad > you had the surgery. Are you able to lift weights as before without > damaging it? Chris > >
From: Chris Baxter on 29 Jul 2008 12:20 "Bob Noble" <bnoble(a)sonic.net> wrote in message news:488eb72f$0$17208$742ec2ed(a)news.sonic.net... > Hi Chris, > I hadn't heard we're not supposed to lift weights. > However, I sometimes run a bulldozer in the forest, bouncing around, > sometimes having to left heavy logs off the machine, doing all kinds of > heavy lifting stuff. > I also cut down six cords of three foot diameter trees a year. Cut down > the trees, cutup the wood and split with a hand mall and move and stack > the wood several times. Do a lot of other hard work, like digging and > moving dirt and rock around the yard with a wheel barrel, sometimes over > twenty five wheel barrels a day. > Let's see, what else? > I kayak the river almost everyday from three to five hours. Also have to > unload and load my kayak on the car each time, about fifty pounds. I'm > sixty one and for some reason that seems to impress a lot of people > watching, when I lift it up and throw it on top of the car. > Anyway, it might depend more on the individual, or how good the doc did > the fundo? > I also agree that having the fundo was the best thing I've done. Not > having bad gerd is just great, at least, so far. > > -- > Bob Noble > http://www.sonic.net/bnoble > "Chris Baxter" <cgbaxter(a)cableone.net> wrote in message > news:cqIik.9941$cg.1119(a)fe085.usenetserver.com... >> >> "MrUsaMike" <mrusamike(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message >> news:82bd8104-a688-4535-a754-b606b55b1a9f(a)z26g2000pre.googlegroups.com... >>> Hello Fellow Gerd Members & Dr. Howard: >>> >>> For those of you that are considering having the Nissen surgery, I saw >>> go for it. I couldnt believe how misareble I was until i had the >>> surgery. Gerd is a hedious illness and I dont wish it on anyone. The >>> qulaity of life improvement is huge. I am concearned about what >>> happens after 7 years...and the worst case scenario that I have to >>> have the surgrey again...Anyway positive thoughts and take care... >> >> Mike, it's really good to hear that you are doing well and that you are >> glad >> you had the surgery. Are you able to lift weights as before without >> damaging it? Chris >> >> > Thank you Bob. That's great news. I've held off on having the fundo surgery because I felt the lifting was very critical to the maintenance of my health and well- being. I had heard from some physicians that high intra abdominal pressures that could come from lifting "could" weaken the repair. But nobody has done any studies on it. It's just conjecture. Real world experience is superior in this case. -Chris
From: trigonometry1972 on 31 Jul 2008 20:51
On Jul 29, 9:20 am, "Chris Baxter" <cgbax...(a)cableone.net> wrote: > "Bob Noble" <bno...(a)sonic.net> wrote in message > > news:488eb72f$0$17208$742ec2ed(a)news.sonic.net... > > > > > > > Hi Chris, > > I hadn't heard we're not supposed to lift weights. > > However, I sometimes run a bulldozer in the forest, bouncing around, > > sometimes having to left heavy logs off the machine, doing all kinds of > > heavy lifting stuff. > > I also cut down six cords of three foot diameter trees a year. Cut down > > the trees, cutup the wood and split with a hand mall and move and stack > > the wood several times. Do a lot of other hard work, like digging and > > moving dirt and rock around the yard with a wheel barrel, sometimes over > > twenty five wheel barrels a day. > > Let's see, what else? > > I kayak the river almost everyday from three to five hours. Also have to > > unload and load my kayak on the car each time, about fifty pounds. I'm > > sixty one and for some reason that seems to impress a lot of people > > watching, when I lift it up and throw it on top of the car. > > Anyway, it might depend more on the individual, or how good the doc did > > the fundo? > > I also agree that having the fundo was the best thing I've done. Not > > having bad gerd is just great, at least, so far. > > > -- > > Bob Noble > >http://www.sonic.net/bnoble > > "Chris Baxter" <cgbax...(a)cableone.net> wrote in message > >news:cqIik.9941$cg.1119(a)fe085.usenetserver.com... > > >> "MrUsaMike" <mrusam...(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message > >>news:82bd8104-a688-4535-a754-b606b55b1a9f(a)z26g2000pre.googlegroups.com.... > >>> Hello Fellow Gerd Members & Dr. Howard: > > >>> For those of you that are considering having the Nissen surgery, I saw > >>> go for it. I couldnt believe how misareble I was until i had the > >>> surgery. Gerd is a hedious illness and I dont wish it on anyone. The > >>> qulaity of life improvement is huge. I am concearned about what > >>> happens after 7 years...and the worst case scenario that I have to > >>> have the surgrey again...Anyway positive thoughts and take care... > > >> Mike, it's really good to hear that you are doing well and that you are > >> glad > >> you had the surgery. Are you able to lift weights as before without > >> damaging it? Chris > > Thank you Bob. That's great news. I've held off on having the fundo > surgery because I felt the lifting was very critical to the maintenance of > my health and well- > being. I had heard from some physicians that high intra abdominal pressures > that could come from lifting "could" weaken the repair. But nobody has done > any studies on it. It's just conjecture. Real world experience is superior > in this case. -Chris But there have been follow up studies that are more general, that ask how long until the fundoplication patients returned to using anti-gerd meds. The studies I saw were less encouraging at the years went by. Though it should be noted Howard McM says the operation technique has improved such that the operation is a "moving target." That is my turn of phrase not his. |