From: Bible John on
I tried 1200 yesterday but failed. But then again my Diet Diary app for my
Palm does not have every single food or drink in its database, so perhaps my
intake will be higher or lower than what I hit yesterday.

So I'm going to try a 1500 limit. I want to lose weight and have had almost
no success at a 2600 limit.

If anyone has experience with this software

http://www.calorieking.com/software/ckmobplus.php

Can you tell me how to log my walking? How many calories will I burn if my
overall step limit is 10,000 steps? The app seems to have a way to log
walking done on a treadmill, or fast pace walking outdoors. But does not
have a option to log overall steps in a day.


John

--
1 Pet 3:15-But sanctify the Lord God[a] in your hearts, and always be ready
to give a defense to everyone who asks you a reason for the hope that is in
you, with meekness and fear
CERM-Church Education Resource Ministries
Founder and director
http://johnw.freeshell.org/bible


From: mike90732 on
Hi John,

I've been reading your posts. You're at 240 and want to get down to
200. You haven't mentioned your height. Assuming that 200 is around
normal weight for you, that would make you pretty tall -- maybe 6'2" or
6'3"?

You're jumping around a lot -- to the point where I'm wondering if
there's an emotional factor involved. That's not meant to insult at
all. For many people, including myself, there is an
emotional/psychological factor that contributes to being overweight.

Its a good idea for you to do a little research. There is something
called (I think) the Basal Metabolic Rate. That is the minimum number
of calories you should eat in a day without medical supervision. I'm
6'2" myself, and my Basal Metabolic Rate is around 1700 (something
like that). If you search google, you'll find a number of ways to
calculate your minimum safe caloric intake. You probably should not be
on a 1200 or 1500 calorie/day diet without medical supervision.

Your goal is to lose 40 pounds. You're eating less and getting some
exercise -- that's the way to do it. You need to add a third element to
your goal, which is the amount of time it will take you to lose that
amount of weight. If you set yourself up so that you are losing one to
two pounds a week, every week, that is an excellent and successful rate
for weight loss. If you can do that consistently, over the next several
months, you'll see a steady (gradual) decline in your weight and your
current wardrobe will hanging around your ankles.

What a lot of people do, who are in your situation, is take their
normal weight and multiply that by 10. So, if 200 pounds is around what
your normal weight is supposed to be, then you should be eating 2000
calories a day. That's safe, sane, and it works.

Rather then hop around with your goals, not be sure of how many
calories you're eating, etc., set a realistic goal for calories and
stick to it every day. Getting by on 1500/day or whatever, if its below
your Basal rate, is next to impossible because you'll be hungry all the
time, it may not be safe, and it will slow down your metabolism which
will screw up your weight loss.

It takes a long time to put weight on, and it takes a long time to take
it off. Weight lost = (calories out - calories in) / 3500. If you look
around the Internet at the various weight loss calculators, you'll be
able to apply the math. That will help a lot.

As far as calories in food is concerned, if you're going to count
calories for your diet, you have to count them all, and you have to do
an accurate job. Check out
http://www.nal.usda.gov/fnic/foodcomp/search/ . You can find most foods
there. Invest $10 in a cheap diet scale, a set of measuring cups and a
set of measuring spoons. Weigh and measure everything. If you go off
the deep end with a big desert every two or three weeks, its not a big
deal. Just get right back on track. In the long run, you'll succeed.

Obviously, you have the level of desire and motivation you need to hit
your goal. With just a little more work you can come up with a solid,
realistic plan that will work for you. Consider posting your current
height to this group so that others can pipe in here with some accurate
numbers and so forth. I'm pretty sure that the information I'm giving
you is accurate, but I'm not nearly as knowledgeable as many of the
others in this group.

Mike

From: jmk on
Bible John wrote:
> I tried 1200 yesterday but failed. But then again my Diet Diary app for my
> Palm does not have every single food or drink in its database, so perhaps my
> intake will be higher or lower than what I hit yesterday.
>
> So I'm going to try a 1500 limit. I want to lose weight and have had almost
> no success at a 2600 limit.
>
> If anyone has experience with this software
>
> http://www.calorieking.com/software/ckmobplus.php
>
> Can you tell me how to log my walking? How many calories will I burn if my
> overall step limit is 10,000 steps? The app seems to have a way to log
> walking done on a treadmill, or fast pace walking outdoors. But does not
> have a option to log overall steps in a day.
>
>
> John
>

Have you take a look at SparkPeople.com or Fitday.com? Have you checked
out Balancelog for Palm?

--
jmk in NC
From: nkd_one on
use your watch...note how long it takes to to walk a mile...that's what
i do...if i'm out for three hours i know how far i walked
Bible John wrote:
> I tried 1200 yesterday but failed. But then again my Diet Diary app for my
> Palm does not have every single food or drink in its database, so perhaps my
> intake will be higher or lower than what I hit yesterday.
>
> So I'm going to try a 1500 limit. I want to lose weight and have had almost
> no success at a 2600 limit.
>
> If anyone has experience with this software
>
> http://www.calorieking.com/software/ckmobplus.php
>
> Can you tell me how to log my walking? How many calories will I burn if my
> overall step limit is 10,000 steps? The app seems to have a way to log
> walking done on a treadmill, or fast pace walking outdoors. But does not
> have a option to log overall steps in a day.
>
>
> John
>
> --
> 1 Pet 3:15-But sanctify the Lord God[a] in your hearts, and always be ready
> to give a defense to everyone who asks you a reason for the hope that is in
> you, with meekness and fear
> CERM-Church Education Resource Ministries
> Founder and director
> http://johnw.freeshell.org/bible

From: Mary_Gordon on
John, you are going about this in a desperate and extreme kind of way.
Why did you suddenly go from 2600 calories a day down to 1200 a day -
that is a very extreme change, and one that is sure to fail, along with
wild over the top exercising - its too much too soon, and you'll fall
off the wagon and give up pronto. You are not going to lose weight
overnight - you have to get your head around that. This is a long term
project, and it involves making sustainable and permanent lifestyle
changes - and this PROFOUND. If you peel it off quickly on a crash
diet, the second you stop and go back to your same old, the weight
comes right back, and brings its friends with it.

Think about losing a pound or two a week. You don't have to be so
extreme - and you also don't try something for a day or a week and then
dump the idea entirely. This takes patience and effort and time! If
2600 calories is too much, why not try dialing it back to 2200, and
see what happens? What are you eating for your 2600 calories? Are you
making every bite count? Are you trying to eat healthier things that
will make you feel full and not deprived?

I reached my goal (65 lb lost) over a year ago, and I had to
fundamentally change what I ate - forever. I now eat much smaller
portions. I always make sure I have breakfast and include protein (I
find doing that makes me much less prone to be hungry during the day).
I eat much lower fat. I eat much less bread, rice, potatoes, pasta -
which I used to pig out on, and put fat laden sauces and butter on - I
have dialed back the sugar intake. I eat a LOT more vegetables - and I
find salads don't always make me feel satisfied, so I eat a lot of
steamed veg - for some reason HOT veggies make me feel less deprived.
I cut out my soy milk consumption (stuffed with calories - at least the
kind I liked was). I've also changed my snacks - no more chips. I eat
veggies, pickles, fruit.

Losing the weight was hard, but it was NOTHING compared to accepting
that my life had to change forever or I'd be back where I started in no
time. Its like the weight loss that I thought was so daunting was just
the first little skirmish in the real war, which was achieving long
term control of ME.

You are swinging all over - settle down, find something you can live
with, and settle in for a long slow campaign. One day of failure should
not mean you throw in the towel. Everyone has a crummy day when they
fall off the wagon - but you get back on the trail the next day.

I'm thinking maybe you aren't really mentally ready to do this. It took
me a lot of false starts before I "got" the situation and the kind of
grit and effort it was going to entail.

Mary G. (still fighting the fight, but as a much slimmer lady - was a
size 16-18, now a 6-8).