12 Babies die during vaccine trials in Argentina
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From: JOHN on 11 Jul 2008 12:52 http://www.tradingmarkets.com/.site/news/Stock%20News/1750553/ 12 Babies die during vaccine trials in Argentina Buenos Aires, Jul 10, 2008 (Buenos Aires, Jul 10, 2008 At least 12 babies who were part of a clinical study to test the effectiveness of a vaccine against pneumonia have died over the past year in Argentina, the local press reported Thursday. The study was sponsored by global drug giant GlaxoSmithKline and uses children from poor families, who are "pressured and forced into signing consent forms," the Argentine Federation of Health Professionals, or Fesprosa, said. "This occurs without any type of state control" and "does not comply with minimum ethical requirements," Fesprosa said. The vaccine trial is still ongoing despite the denunciations, and those in charge of the study were cited by the Critica newspaper as saying that the procedures are being carried out in a lawful manner. Colombian and Panama were also chosen by GSK as staging grounds for trials of the vaccine against the pneumococcal bacteria. Since 2007, 15,000 children under the age of one from the Argentine provinces of Mendoza, San Juan and Santiago del Estero have been included in the research protocol, a statement of what the study is trying to achieve. "Only 12 have died throughout the country, which is a very low figure if we compare it with the deaths produced by respiratory illnesses caused by the pneumococcal bacteria," pediatrician Enrique Smith, one of the lead investigators, said. In Santiago del Estero, one of the country's poorest provinces, the trials were authorized when Enrique's brother, Juan Carlos Smith, was provincial health minister. According to pediatrician Ana Maria Marchese, who works at the children's hospital in the provincial capital where the studies are being conducted, "because they can't experiment in Europe or the United States, they come to do it in third-world countries." "A lot of people want to leave the protocol but aren't allowed; they force them to continue under the threat that if they leave they won't receive any other vaccine," said Julieta Ovejero, great aunt of one of the six babies who died in Santiago del Estero. Fesprosa's Juan Carlos Palomares said that "in most cases these are underprivileged individuals, many of them unable to read or write, who are pressured into including their children" in the trials. According to Fesprosa, "the laboratory pays $8,000 for each child included in the study, but none (of that money) remains in the province that lends the public facilities and the health personnel for the private research." EFE
From: Citizen Jimserac on 11 Jul 2008 14:15 On Jul 11, 12:52 pm, "JOHN" <j...(a)nospam.com> wrote: > http://www.tradingmarkets.com/.site/news/Stock%20News/1750553/ > > 12 Babies die during vaccine trials in Argentina > > Buenos Aires, Jul 10, 2008 (Buenos Aires, Jul 10, 2008 > > At least 12 babies who were part of a clinical study to test the > effectiveness of a vaccine against pneumonia have died over the past year in > Argentina, the local press reported Thursday. > > The study was sponsored by global drug giant GlaxoSmithKline and uses > children from poor families, who are "pressured and forced into signing > consent forms," the Argentine Federation of Health Professionals, or > Fesprosa, said. > > "This occurs without any type of state control" and "does not comply with > minimum ethical requirements," Fesprosa said. > > The vaccine trial is still ongoing despite the denunciations, and those in > charge of the study were cited by the Critica newspaper as saying that the > procedures are being carried out in a lawful manner. > > Colombian and Panama were also chosen by GSK as staging grounds for trials > of the vaccine against the pneumococcal bacteria. > > Since 2007, 15,000 children under the age of one from the Argentine > provinces of Mendoza, San Juan and Santiago del Estero have been included in > the research protocol, a statement of what the study is trying to achieve. > > "Only 12 have died throughout the country, which is a very low figure if we > compare it with the deaths produced by respiratory illnesses caused by the > pneumococcal bacteria," pediatrician Enrique Smith, one of the lead > investigators, said. > > In Santiago del Estero, one of the country's poorest provinces, the trials > were authorized when Enrique's brother, Juan Carlos Smith, was provincial > health minister. > > According to pediatrician Ana Maria Marchese, who works at the children's > hospital in the provincial capital where the studies are being conducted, > "because they can't experiment in Europe or the United States, they come to > do it in third-world countries." > > "A lot of people want to leave the protocol but aren't allowed; they force > them to continue under the threat that if they leave they won't receive any > other vaccine," said Julieta Ovejero, great aunt of one of the six babies > who died in Santiago del Estero. > > Fesprosa's Juan Carlos Palomares said that "in most cases these are > underprivileged individuals, many of them unable to read or write, who are > pressured into including their children" in the trials. > > According to Fesprosa, "the laboratory pays $8,000 for each child included > in the study, but none (of that money) remains in the province that lends > the public facilities and the health personnel for the private research." > EFE Well done. The mindless pro-vaccinationists accuse us of being uncaring in regard to children's health. INSTEAD, the facts such as these that you have posted expose the REAL danger to every child subject to vaccination and this IRESSPECTIVE of any "protection" the vaccine may or MAY NOT provide from something else. Citizen Jimserac The vaccination "didn't take". (Common statement on adverse reaction to a vaccination)
From: Peter Moran on 11 Jul 2008 17:04 "Citizen Jimserac" <Jimserac(a)gmail.com> wrote in message news:b6b539bd-4085-4370-8646-4ee2c1afb0cb(a)p25g2000hsf.googlegroups.com... > On Jul 11, 12:52 pm, "JOHN" <j...(a)nospam.com> wrote: >> http://www.tradingmarkets.com/.site/news/Stock%20News/1750553/ >> >> 12 Babies die during vaccine trials in Argentina >> >> Buenos Aires, Jul 10, 2008 (Buenos Aires, Jul 10, 2008 >> >> At least 12 babies who were part of a clinical study to test the >> effectiveness of a vaccine against pneumonia have died over the past year >> in >> Argentina, the local press reported Thursday. >> >> The study was sponsored by global drug giant GlaxoSmithKline and uses >> children from poor families, who are "pressured and forced into signing >> consent forms," the Argentine Federation of Health Professionals, or >> Fesprosa, said. >> >> "This occurs without any type of state control" and "does not comply with >> minimum ethical requirements," Fesprosa said. >> >> The vaccine trial is still ongoing despite the denunciations, and those >> in >> charge of the study were cited by the Critica newspaper as saying that >> the >> procedures are being carried out in a lawful manner. >> >> Colombian and Panama were also chosen by GSK as staging grounds for >> trials >> of the vaccine against the pneumococcal bacteria. >> >> Since 2007, 15,000 children under the age of one from the Argentine >> provinces of Mendoza, San Juan and Santiago del Estero have been included >> in >> the research protocol, a statement of what the study is trying to >> achieve. >> >> "Only 12 have died throughout the country, which is a very low figure if >> we >> compare it with the deaths produced by respiratory illnesses caused by >> the >> pneumococcal bacteria," pediatrician Enrique Smith, one of the lead >> investigators, said. >> >> In Santiago del Estero, one of the country's poorest provinces, the >> trials >> were authorized when Enrique's brother, Juan Carlos Smith, was provincial >> health minister. >> >> According to pediatrician Ana Maria Marchese, who works at the children's >> hospital in the provincial capital where the studies are being conducted, >> "because they can't experiment in Europe or the United States, they come >> to >> do it in third-world countries." I won't defend truly unethical behaviour, and there is a history of drug companies exploiting less developed populations in drug testing. But it makes both ethical and economic sense to test vaccines out where there are high mortality rates from the target illness. PM >> >> "A lot of people want to leave the protocol but aren't allowed; they >> force >> them to continue under the threat that if they leave they won't receive >> any >> other vaccine," said Julieta Ovejero, great aunt of one of the six babies >> who died in Santiago del Estero. >> >> Fesprosa's Juan Carlos Palomares said that "in most cases these are >> underprivileged individuals, many of them unable to read or write, who >> are >> pressured into including their children" in the trials. >> >> According to Fesprosa, "the laboratory pays $8,000 for each child >> included >> in the study, but none (of that money) remains in the province that lends >> the public facilities and the health personnel for the private research." >> EFE > > Well done. The mindless pro-vaccinationists > accuse us of being uncaring in regard to children's health. > INSTEAD, the facts such as these that you have posted > expose the REAL danger to every child subject to > vaccination and this IRESSPECTIVE of any "protection" > the vaccine may or MAY NOT provide from something else. > > Citizen Jimserac > The vaccination "didn't take". > (Common statement on adverse reaction to a vaccination)
From: JOHN on 11 Jul 2008 17:32 "Peter Moran" <pmoran(a)internode.on.net> wrote in message news:xJudnTtFZKArV-rVnZ2dnUVZ_rPinZ2d(a)posted.internode... > makes both ethical and economic sense to test vaccines out where there are > high mortality rates from the target illness. they only btest vaccines in the thirld world as they can get away with anything, and get anything on the market and you shouldn't vaccinate malnourished kids http://www.whale.to/vaccine/healthy_trial_babies_only.html
From: Mike on 11 Jul 2008 18:36
JOHN wrote: > "Peter Moran" <pmoran(a)internode.on.net> wrote in message > news:xJudnTtFZKArV-rVnZ2dnUVZ_rPinZ2d(a)posted.internode... > >> makes both ethical and economic sense to test vaccines out where there are >> high mortality rates from the target illness. > > they only btest vaccines in the thirld world as they can get away with > anything, and get anything on the market > Not just vaccines. In 1996, Pfizer tested antibiotic Trovan on Nigerian children in a hospital in town of Kano. The letter of approval from the hospital ethics committee was forged and backdated. The parents were not told that the drug was never tested on children. 11 "guinea pigs" died, some others had brain damage. Trovan was never approved for children by FDA and was banned in Europe. Small wonder many people resist polio vaccinations there these days. > and you shouldn't vaccinate malnourished kids > http://www.whale.to/vaccine/healthy_trial_babies_only.html > > > |